Speaking on Monday, Mr Trudeau also suggested that Russia would use the appearance to push a false narrative on Ukraine.
Putin has tried justifying the war in Ukraine by saying he is fighting nazis. The optics of Canada’s parliament applauding a Ukrainian with ties to Nazis is that it adds fuel to Putin’s narrative. Trudeau did not blame Russian propaganda for causing the incident. Trudeau was saying to push back on Russian propaganda if Putin uses this incident to further those claims.
blah blah blah is that what you people all say? It’s becoming a really tiring ad hominem. Never any western country’s fault, always some mystic eastern forces which seem to pollute the pure white countries.
Deflect the conversation to russian propaganda, since they’ll use this as evidence for de-Nazification; good for them I guess, maybe the west shouldn’t hold ovation ceremonies for war criminals?
They only shown an individual who was ‘affiliated’ with the nazis;
WhatabouttherussiangenocideinUKRAINE!!!; UN doesn’t recognize a genocide, but they sure did convict war criminals belonging to the SS-galician division
“At this stage, we still have not come to the conclusion that a genocide is taking place,” the head of the commission, Eric Möse, told reporters at a press conference.
"Russian Supporters (the liberal party of Canada?) fooled Zelensky and Trudeau by bringing in a SS-waffen veteran!; wow they must be really stupid then, maybe they shouldn’t be heads of states? Doesn’t explain why they met behind closed doors for some ‘talks’
Also looks like poland is pissed, I wonder how will ukraine react?🤔
Anyways, time and time again russia ‘propaganda’ about nazism in ukraine always proves to be right. Why on earth should I believe the muck which the west’s pump nowadays? They were wrong about russian munitions, they were wrong about NATO personal involvement in ukraine, they were wrong about the ukranian offensive, they were wrong about wagner etc. So no genocide in ukraine, western media is incompetent, or lying, or both, and Nazis seem to popping up everywhere in ukranian photos, and now they recently gave a ceremony to one. So go ahead, explain why I should be believe a PM who just praised a waffen-SS veteran about combating russian propaganda?
How will Trudeau manage to push back against Putin’s claims that NATO countries and Zelensky support Nazis, after they have applauded SS members in parliament though?
I agree, I do think the optics of being seen by the whole world applauding SS members responsible for participating in genocide is bad. Because it actually is really, really bad.
The optics of Canada’s parliament applauding a Ukrainian with ties to Nazis
I apologise for my language, as I normally try to engage on good faith with dissenting opinions. But kindly fuck off.
“A ukrainian with ties to nazis”. You mean a literal nazi that actually volunteered to join a nazi regiment? That “ukrainian with ties to nazis”? You are bending over backwards to whitewash him.
Putin has tried justifying the war in Ukraine by saying he is fighting nazis. The optics of Canada’s parliament applauding a Ukrainian with ties to Nazis is that it adds fuel to Putin’s narrative. Trudeau did not blame Russian propaganda for causing the incident. Trudeau was saying to push back on Russian propaganda if Putin uses this incident to further those claims.
blah blah blah is that what you people all say? It’s becoming a really tiring ad hominem. Never any western country’s fault, always some mystic eastern forces which seem to pollute the pure white countries.
WhatabouttherussiangenocideinUKRAINE!!!; UN doesn’t recognize a genocide, but they sure did convict war criminals belonging to the SS-galician division “At this stage, we still have not come to the conclusion that a genocide is taking place,” the head of the commission, Eric Möse, told reporters at a press conference.
"Russian Supporters (the liberal party of Canada?) fooled Zelensky and Trudeau by bringing in a SS-waffen veteran!; wow they must be really stupid then, maybe they shouldn’t be heads of states? Doesn’t explain why they met behind closed doors for some ‘talks’![](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/c20f2f14-032f-4e0a-9a26-3fc0905e7be8.png)
Also looks like poland is pissed, I wonder how will ukraine react?🤔
Anyways, time and time again russia ‘propaganda’ about nazism in ukraine always proves to be right. Why on earth should I believe the muck which the west’s pump nowadays? They were wrong about russian munitions, they were wrong about NATO personal involvement in ukraine, they were wrong about the ukranian offensive, they were wrong about wagner etc. So no genocide in ukraine, western media is incompetent, or lying, or both, and Nazis seem to popping up everywhere in ukranian photos, and now they recently gave a ceremony to one. So go ahead, explain why I should be believe a PM who just praised a waffen-SS veteran about combating russian propaganda?
Here are a few links in case anyone wants an easier to read version of those images.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=F2glDwAAQBAJ
https://readfrom.net/michael-james-melnyk/page,1,522927-stalins_nemesis.html
https://twitter.com/CzarnekP/status/1706569136849981920
It’s almost as if Putin’s narrative is much closer to reality than NATO’s.
How will Trudeau manage to push back against Putin’s claims that NATO countries and Zelensky support Nazis, after they have applauded SS members in parliament though?
I agree, I do think the optics of being seen by the whole world applauding SS members responsible for participating in genocide is bad. Because it actually is really, really bad.
His whole statement was a giant deflection.
I apologise for my language, as I normally try to engage on good faith with dissenting opinions. But kindly fuck off.
“A ukrainian with ties to nazis”. You mean a literal nazi that actually volunteered to join a nazi regiment? That “ukrainian with ties to nazis”? You are bending over backwards to whitewash him.