• ikapoz@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Fault and fairness are irrelevant; they’ve never had anything to do with how government functions and damn sure don’t look to start mattering any time soon. A two party system this polarized simply will. not. work.

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      Which is exactly why it’s important not to bail the republicans out of their self imposed ongoing schism. They need to be broken up and that can’t happen unless they repeatedly fail to caucus together on even simple procedural tasks like electing a speaker. This is an ideal problem brought upon themselves to show they are already not a single unified party. Just a loose agglomeration of shit stirrers. Two bad kids in their granddad’s trench coat.

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        I certainly wouldn’t say that bailing them out is the best choice, either from a moral or a practical point of view. My point was merely that the eight nutters here are not the real problem. They are merely symptom of much more grave and perhaps systemic threats to the governmental system.

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          … which Republicans have a large hand in perpetuating.

          I’m not saying Democrats are the saints and angels, but they’re a damn sight better than their red-faced counter-parts. What little enabling their members do pales in comparison to the enabling of the Republican party.

          Wholesale change needs to happen. And moving The Leftovers party out of it’s middle-of-the-road approach is part of that, but it’s not even close to a majority. Trying to lump the two together as some sort of “everyone in government is bad!” approach is disingenuous and antithetical to seeking change.

          If you want to see a solution, stop trying to generalize the problem. We’ve had generalized “solutions” for decades, and it’s done nothing but slow the degradation a little bit at best.

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            1 year ago

            Your assumption that I’m making an argument to moderation is fundamentally incorrect and a little insulting.

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              My assumption is that you’re casting too wide a net because you’re just tired of the status quo, but you don’t really know who to really blame. So you’re blaming everyone.

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      They are relevant when it comes to elections. And that’s all that ultimately matters in our system.