Best I can do is give you a list of the worst deals for you that will bring your money to the corporations who paid me the most with a nice helping of targeted ads for all eternity.
Both of those sound kinda dystopian. Because you just know the first one will start getting gamed by every company from the grocery companies trying to SEO the AI, to the big fossil fuel companies trying to get you to drive your car more.
I can’t wait for the technology to get basic enough where I can roll my own self hosted instance of it without it taking months. Because I can see a way it’s doable without a centralized service to get around that. But for mass consumer level, I can see that becoming true. But this can be applied to every bit of software currently. All of it can be ran by you, if you have time. Hell I’ve got my own cloud (hosted at my home ) music streaming service.
A lot of that is doable now - like, how many grocery stores are even nearby to someone, so writing a custom bit of code to check the website of each, one by one, and looking for previously manually-identified items could be automated.
One major downside is prioritization of large chain stores at the expense of smaller mom & pop ones that don’t maintain a constant inventory system accessible via the web. Someone could even volunteer their time to build them a database backend, but still they’d have to see the value in actually scanning the items every time or else it would quickly fall behind.
How is making a picture of me as an astronaut “dystopian”?
The same technology can be used for widespread, low-cost, highly convincing misinformation and propaganda campaigns
The moon landing wasn’t faked, but I was there instead of Neil Armstrong. See these pics?
And it’s a service because AI
And the service costs a subscription fee
And the service quality drops once it saturates the market
And the service now contains ads
And the grocery stores can pay to promote their store when it is not the most affordable option
And now it’s not economically feasible to not use their service
You don’t need “AI” for that. All you would need is some standardized APIs for the various shops, and you could easily solve this with computer technology from 20 years ago.
The reality is, though, that there are no such APIs. LLMs on the other hand could be a valid tool for the use case.
LLMs are not a good tool for processing data like this. They would be good for presenting that data though.
Llms are great for scraping data
LLMs don’t scrape data, scrapers scrape data. LLMs predict text.
It’s not that there’s no API. It’s that there’s probably a different API for every single grocery store. And they make random changes and don’t have public documentation. That’s why we need the AI.
Indeed. LLMs read with the same sort of comprehension that humans have, so if a supermarket makes their website compatible with humans then it’s also compatible with LLMs. We have the same “API”, as it were.
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That sounds like an issue with your system prompt. If you’re using an LLM to interpret web pages for price information then you’d want to include instructions about what to do if the information simply isn’t in the web page to begin with. If you don’t tell the AI what to do under those circumstances you can’t expect any specific behaviour because it wouldn’t know what it’s supposed to do.
I suspect from this comment that you haven’t actually worked with LLMs much, and are just going off the general “lol they hallucinate” perception they have right now? I’ve worked with LLMs a fair bit and they very rarely have trouble interpreting what’s in their provided context (as would be the case here with web page content). Hallucinations come from relying on their own “trained” information, which they recall imperfectly and often gets a bit jumbled. To continue using a human analogy, it’s like asking someone to rely on their own memory rather than reading information from a piece of paper.
Or you could just prompt it to not guess prices for articles that don’t exist. Those models are pretty good at following instructions.
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The cheapest way to get groceries in the States has always been do all your grocery shopping in the same store, preferably a discount store like an Aldi, instead of cutting coupons and going to multiple different stores due to the simple fact that the gasoline used for driving around is most likely going to cancel out any saving from shopping around, an unfortunate side effect of America’s car centric infrastructure.
You don’t really need an AI to make this list, plus, I think there are apps that already trying to do exactly that.
However, getting a computer to draw yourself in ridiculous situations (usually with an equally ridiculous number of fingers) is great entertainment.
Ok am I wrong or was this not what Google Assistant used to be in the 2010s?
It still is. Problem is if you ask it this you might have to triple check what it tells you because it will most likely be wrong.
This is so sad. I bet Alexa can’t even play Despacito anymore if I ask her to.
When that song went viral, it was played so much that the collective power draw could have powered 40.000 households for a year.
That’s not AI, that’s just a program easily able to do that without all the “AI” garbage technology. Why do we all of a sudden think that every solution computing does is “AI” now? For fuck’s sake.
Because the average person out there could not make “just a program”… the promise of AI is that anyone can be a programmer now…
In reality, I would bet a full morning of prompting ChatGPT wouldn’t produce what the lady is asking for accurately
So AI can magically see everything in your refrigerator, pantry, etc, right? Oh wait. You need a program created so you can enter what you have and don’t have.
Goddamn, AI is now literally magic to you people. Pathetic.
Well there’s probably like, cameras and sensors or something in there, right?
So AI can magically see everything in your refrigerator, pantry, etc, right?
It was literally showcased in what turned out to be one of the many AI scams
https://youtu.be/22wlLy7hKP4?si=cImQy0BQjySRR7ep&t=1058
It has also been demoed by others as well… so yes, AI powered devices can or are supposed to be able to “look” into your fridge
Sigh. I give up. Enjoy being taken over by AI, you masochistic freaks. For fuck’s sake. This is the easiest goddamn thing ever to understand, that AI is a bloated, power-sucking, privacy-stealing, cheating, stealing pile of garbage. Everyone should be on the side of “fuck AI”. Everyone.
Of course, I guess I should have expected a world full of fucking idiot flat earthers, vegans, Trump supporters, goddamn theists who still believe in a goddamn invisible sky friend in 2024, moon landing denialists, and so many other brainless cretins to actually support one of the worst technologies to ever come along. How fucking dystopian is it for a goddamn company to have all this data of your food stocks when you can build an application that you manually fill out and update to rely on itself and nothing else to tell you when things are going down? Enjoy pointing a camera at your damn food 24/7. People are literally this goddamn lazy.
How about this: go to the store every week and write down what you need before you leave? How fucking hard is that? Is that too fucking 20th century for you? Too much brain power needed?
Fuck all of you AI loving freaks who are destroying this society.
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Dude we are misunderstanding each other here…
I am not defending AI at all… in fact, from your comment it seems we both hate it equally.
All I was saying is that they have already “shown” this magical scanning of fridge as a function already available… it turned out to be complete garbage and fake (as most of the AI over hype they have pumped) but they did. Please note I actually posted as “in what turned out to be one of the many AI scams”
Here is the vid where they “showed” how this is supposed to work and how it actually flops hilariously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLvFc_24vSM
Going back to the original thread, my intention was to say that AI was promised as a way for anyone to be a programmer now. That is not me saying it, that is literally what was pumped out. To an extend, a very short extend, this is true. You can get a little script going or maybe even some heavy Excel spreadsheet manipulation with AI tools and not knowing any code. But that is the end of it.
What I have been able to confirm AI doing is about 30% of what is being promised out there… literally the “pro” vs “nailed it” discrepancy. I also agree with you in that this bit of AI that does work is not worth the harm we are doing to jobs, the environment, etc
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For that you need an expert system managing a data warehouse/Smart agent. That’s not Ai per se
Expert systems are totally AI
How?
AI is artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is more than just language manipulation, and covers a very broad spectrum of things relating to “computers dynamically perceiving and adapting to their environment to further a goal”.
Having a body of information, using rules to infer new facts in light of that information, and using those rules and facts to respond to user inputs in a meaningful and helpful way is an expression of intelligence.
It’s not human level obviously, and it likely lacks advanced language abilities, but that doesn’t make it not an application of AI.AI is in a huge number if things,but we usually don’t label it because it’s usually not notable or interesting.
Lol no, a bunch of control and recursive statements is not an AI hahaha.
I bet you played Akinator and were befuddled by it lolz
I appreciate how you ask a question, and when someone answers you just say “no” and insult them.
Did you know that you can just search for this stuff and learn for yourself instead of being aggressively ignorant?
Are you one of those people who thinks that AI means “a human level intelligence”, or some sort of magic system that doesn’t involve control flow?
I had to look up what Akinator was, but yes, that game is using AI because statistical classification and knowledge retrieval are AI tasks.
If befuddledment is an insult for you, I do t know what to tell you.
Hate to break it to you again but a bunch of ifs is not an AI hahaha 🤣
Do you know how machine learning algorithms work?
For that you need companies that find value in cannibalizing sales of their more expensive products even if the quality is better.
Most stores in general rely on certain sales driving you in and you spending money on the more expensive items because your already there.
What? Man any standard order management system does that and to have one you don’t need to be any of those things.
Y’all nibbas need Jesus
So your saying you could go to amazon.com and they will instantly show you lower prices at perse Newegg and Best buy.
Also for a company, you order from one or multiple suppliers. There’s no system in place to cross shop, you just have to go to both suppliers and compare the prices yourself.
If they work together to that degree it would either encourage price fixing or cannibalize each other’s sales.
Sure why not, if they have a license for that.
Yeah the second thing that’s what OMS are supposed to be for, it’s B2B sales boy can handle b2c as well…so they do that as well, if you have the licenses and agreements for it
Last thing, nah, it doesn’t work like that. You wouldn’t have businesses working on the first place in that case, fixing prices leads to shortages, and forget about doing illegal activities with those systems, they are to be security compliant so if that happens is a lawsuit in waiting
It is, sadly, all very poorly focused on the things that won’t benefit society as a whole, but once again, the ruling class. I really wish AI had not been developed with the intent to make white collar jobs obsolete. If only these same brilliant minds had been focused on robotics and processes that humans don’t want to participate in.
They are, look at modem factory or mine they’re full of robotics, now injuries are incredibly low and many of the most dangerous jobs are as safe as a well run office
We’re in a big transition as new technologies are developed, it’s going to take time but there are are some huge things coming soon - llms and cv are enabling fsctory toolarms to leave the factory so expect cooking arms, repair arms, construction arms, micro factories bringing manufacturing back to local markets… sure it sucks we don’t have it now but don’t hate the early stages of it just because it’s not finished yet.
What does creating pictures of astronaut kittens or videos of perpetual zooming have to do with any of that, let alone creating poems about robots and ninjas?
