U.S. Senator Joe Manchin, a maverick Democrat who has often bucked party leadership, told a radio station in his home state of West Virginia on Thursday that he is “thinking seriously” about leaving the party.
“I’m not a Washington Democrat,” Manchin said in the interview on Talkline with Hoppy Kercheval, a West Virginia Metro News show. “I’ve been thinking seriously about that (becoming an independent) for quite some time.”
Manchin and Democratic-turned-independent colleague Senator Kyrsten Sinema have been thorns in top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer’s side since the party won its majority in 2020. Democrats hold a 51-49 majority, including three independents who caucus with them.
Last month Manchin further stirred Democratic concerns with an appearance in the early-voting state of New Hampshire with the “No Labels” group, where he mulled starting a third-party presidential campaign in 2024, challenging Democratic President Joe Biden. Having a third-party candidate would “threaten” the two major political parties, Manchin said.
Manchin has used his influence to block legislation that he opposes - including expanding voting rights protections and child tax credits - and to ensure passage of bills he supports, such as a major tax and climate law that passed last summer.
He faces a tough re-election bid next year in Republican-leaning West Virginia, which former President Donald Trump won by almost 39 percentage points in 2020. Manchin has not yet said if he will seek re-election, but he would face an even steeper road if he spurned his party and the fundraising support it can provide.
West Virginia Governor Jim Justice, a former Democrat-turned Republican, began his campaign in April for the Republican nomination to seek Manchin’s seat.
Manchin, a popular former governor who was first elected to the U.S. Senate in 2010, has kept his seat in part by maintaining a reputation as a rare conservative Democrat in Washington.
lol byyyyyye. if he ain’t leaving they should kick him out anyway. i know good electoral politics means coalition-building, but i don’t see the point in building a coalition with people like Manchin and Sinema who seem to share none of the party’s common goals.
If Manchin didn’t exist, not a single piece of Biden’s agenda over the past two years would have passed, including things like Justice Jackson joining the Supreme Court.
Yes, he’s incredibly annoying, but he’s also representing the people of West Virginia, of all places. Would you really prefer a 6-2 Supreme Court? I wouldn’t.
Assuming you’re a wage earner, none of it matters. The Democrats had a supermajority under Obama and all we got for it was more expensive health care, another 500 billion for war every year and a Republican SCOTUS nominee that he didn’t even have the balls to fight for.
We have bipartisanship, and it’s always there for the worst things. The US spending a trillion-plus dollars a year on war is a permanent thing because of bipartisanship. Abortion is no longer a right because of bipartisanship. You can legally be paid $7 an hour for whatever job you do every day because of bipartisanship.
But they’ll make three trillion appear overnight to prop up your investment portfolio, or another trillion appear overnight for a so-called tax cut.
You can pretend someone’s better because they’re in a blue suit, but 40 years of that thinking is why things are never going to get better in this country.
Yeah as a type 1 diabetic you can fuck off with that all we got is more expensive healthcare. I never have to be denied because of pre existing conditions thanks to Obama and the democrats. Also we had a super majority for all of 72 days.
Yeah as a type 1 diabetic you can fuck off with that all we got is more expensive healthcare.
Perhaps, but unless you can absorb being price-gouged, that same system will literally just let you die. You only have access if you can pay for it.
Also, it’s not a secret that many American diabetics are being charged the equivalent of a mortgage payment for their medicine every month, effectively paying rent to occupy their own bodies. Obama could have changed that. The Dems could have changed that.
Guess what. The same thing happened before Obama too. Except then it was happening without insurance because we could get denied for having pre existing health conditions that would prevent us from obtaining insurance in the first place. Seeing as you aren’t a diabetic and don’t have to live this reality, And I am, please kindly take this bull you are spewing and shove it. Because you do not know what it is like at all.
Democrats had a supermajority for only ten months, and in that time they managed to pass a major piece of legislation on a highly controversial topic.
If you expected more than one in that time frame, then you really don’t understand how American politics works.
Democrats had a supermajority for only ten months
That would Democrats’ campaign slogan if they were honest: We’re not going to do shit. It’s a shame that people can’t eat excuses.
Democrats do plenty, especially at the local level.
The problem is that some voters have barely the attention span necessary to watch an entire TikTok video. They start complaining unless they see something new in their feed every day so they can click “like”.
But that’s not how democracy works, in fact that’s never been how it worked. To take just one example, abortion opponents developed a long term strategy that only came to fruition after several decades.
That’s who you’re up against: people who know how to play the long game. So if you are frustrated by a lack of short term gains, then you aren’t cut out for American politics.
That’s what I’m saying. Isn’t this the state of Blair Mountain, John Brown’s Raid, and October Sky?
Where’s the neo Woody Guthrie coal miner’s daughter type looking to run a grass roots campaign on justice for the opiate-pushing and transitioning fossil fuel work to sustainable energy? Someone who wants to bring stable, modern jobs to WV and revitalize it while protecting the natural splendor that tourists seek.
He’s up for reelection in '24. Someone more sensible should primary this lump of coal. Gotta find that person and build that campaign though. And learn from Beto’s mistakes.
Lmao Blair mountain was 102 years ago my guy. John Brown was 160 years ago. And October Sky is about one dude who became a rocket engineer. So not sure why that was included. You seriously think the political landscape of west Virginia hasn’t changed in the last 100-160 years? You aren’t going to find anyone better than manchin who stands a chance in west Virginia
Fetterman is ‘one dude’. So is Ossoff. So is Warnock. You really think the political landscape of states can’t change?
I’ve sat in the shade of trees older than 160yrs. I’ve got relatives pushing 100 (as is too much of Congress). That amount of time really isn’t that long. Technology may have changed a lot but people are still basically the same.
I think that ‘Manchin is the best we can hope for’ is selling the people of WV short. As evidenced by their history: NASA rocket scientist (from a coal mining family), union fighters, abolitionists. And we certainly won’t flip states like WV with defeatist mindsets.
Also, I’m not your guy, buddy.
One rocket scientist doesn’t mean the entire state is good. I really don’t understand your obsession with thinking west Virginia isn’t a backwater state full of racists.
I mean shit your let’s give them new job training is literally what clinton recommended And that shit was shut down hard by the people of west Virginia. Look at how they vote in every election. It’s delusion to think we can flip them blue.
Who needs the entire state to be good? Who said they were?! 51%. That’s it, that’s all that’s needed. You want to give up and let the Republicans have whatever they want? That’s on you. I’m not giving up so easily.
You are right. We do need 51%. In 2020 there was a 65% turnout and Biden got just under 30%. Even if every one of the 35% of west Virginians who didn’t vote were secret libs he still wouldn’t have won. But hey. Good luck winning a statewide election with just under 30% of the voters on your side. Also are you on the ground in wva working with a progressive candidate? Because if not then you have given up and all your doing is complaining that the Dems aren’t doing enough.
Many comments here are complaining about Manchin without taking the time to consider the political acrobatics necessary to win a statewide office in West Virginia as a Democrat. Yes, he’s been a pain in the ass but a Republican in that seat would be much, much worse. If nothing else, he’s a point towards control of the chamber. Sinema is a different story because she ran as being more progressive than she ended up being and because Kelly is proof positive that an actual Democrat could have won on Arizona. Manchin has never shied away from what he stands for and is probably the only person who could keep the seat blue. So yeah, hate his politics all you want but recognize that him leaving the party would be a terrible thing.
This kind of balanced view is one reason I stay in fediverse and don’t go back to Reddit.
