I think there are two more questions that need to be answered first, before being able to tell whether we should prioritize the many.

First question is what is the ultimate goal behind prioritizng the many? Happiness of the population? Infinite growth? To conquer the stars? Depending on what the goal is, there are occasions where minorities should be the focus if we want to approach the goal the fastest.
Example is moon landing: The amount of resources that was spent on “simply” building a rocket, space suits & equipment, and send a couple of humans over there was prioritizing the few. Despite a lot of people watching with curious eyes, it did not benefit the many’s needs much. There were several goals here: Being before the USSR, explore the unknown, satisfying shareholders, and more. By the many working hard to send the few, we approached all these goals faster than if we would allocate some of these resources towards the many’s needs, like health (prime days of smoking cigarettes).

The second question is what timeframe are we talking? Is it long-term or short-term success we’re aiming for? Because in many cases, if we want long-term success fast, the many are those who should “suffer”.
Example is where the long-term goal is the glorious evolution of mankind: In one way, we downprioritize the few who are those born with defects, either by culling them or by ensuring they do not make offspring. In another way, we downprioritize the many who are on- or below-average intelligence/capabilities. But then we get the question of how we quantify the few/many; where do we draw the line? And as we get more smart/capable humans, the average constantly shifts - what is the concrete goal?

Suffice to say that this is written without emotion, as that makes this discussion the soup it really is: Ethics, benevolence, discrimination, etc., as you mentioned.

First time I hear of the group, but I find there to be such irony, how Kremlin reasoned that they entered Ukraine in order to de-nazify it, only for actualy neo-nazis to fight alongside the Russian military…

I’m now curious, as someone who hasn’t participated in any of the chats, what’s going on?

It’s an interesting thought, one that has crossed my mind a time or two.

I think in reality, we don’t have anything that is “absolute” mind control, but we come pretty close through long-term exposure to biased information (propaganda). You asked for this to be an exception, so I won’t go into details there.
There is a famous study done by Olds and Milner in the world of psychology, where they hooked up rats’ reward center in the brain to some electrodes, resulting in incredible change of behavior. The rats were stimulated by them pulling a lever, and this felt so rewarding to them that they couldn’t think of anything else. After the stimuli was given, they kept pulling the lever to exhaustion, not even prioritizing food or sleep anymore. The scientists also attempted the reverse; to inhibit the reward system. The rats became lethargic, and didn’t have motivation to do anything at all, not even eat.

This is, to much smaller degree, effectively the same that happens with humans that are addicted. Whether it’s to gambling, porn, drugs, gaming, or social media.
So if one can spontaneously create an addiction in someone, you’re one step closer to mind control.

One show that caused a bit of a psychological unease with me was first season of Jessica Jones, where David Tennant makes an excellent performance of a character who can make anyone do exactly as he says. I think this is the kind of mind control that we fear, where we are completely aware of ourselves, but cannot help but do what we have been commanded to do.

Edit:

I forgot to answer your question: Yes, I think it will be invented (and to some degree already has), and total mind control is probably at least 50 years away, as we research the psychological basis that was found with the aforementioned research.

True, but I think if the book is given to the right (group of) people, their curiosity to figure out of the book will likely lead them to it being translated rather fast.

That’s quite the plan - sounds like it could be a good movie (I feel like we already have movies like these, but can’t recall any on top of my head).

They updated the article to provide further context:

Later, in June 2025, the mod’s original uploader deleted it from Steam entirely. In other words, Valve did not remove the mod from Steam (as our original article suggested).

So Valve only restricted access in South Korea, not the rest of the world.

For such mods, there is pretty much always a very firm emphasis on “this is a work of fiction” when starting the game/mod. Example is the Assassin’s Creed games, where they don’t always have historic accuracy, but that’s okay because they have emphasized that this is a liberty they have taken, and they have already made the user aware of it and agreed to the terms.

This mod however (without having tried it myself) does not make any emphasis on this, and hence uncritically portrays it as part of real events.

If it has the potential to generate clicks and revenue: Print it! /s

But I’m happy that they at least contribute to the awareness.

I appreciate the understanding tone - I easily lose my cool with topics as severe as these.

Regarding the interpretation of my comments, I completely agree with you. It was indeed unintentional to potentially give fuel to those who actually defend this stuff. I oftentimes write things directly off my mind, and it doesn’t necessarily convey the correct message.

I find conversations like these to be very engaging, and I find it constructive to discuss with people of conflicting opinions/perspectives. Nevertheless, it is indeed something that should be done with care. Talking AFK is probably a lot better in this regard, as there are elements like tone of voice, body language, etc. that contribute to an understanding.

Keep up the good comments - I think you made a perfect response to me here :-)

I even linked to the war crimes, and you’re accusing me of defending genocide? I even prefaced the comment with Russia not having any right (they are in the wrong).

“Misplaced” was a bad choice of words, as I did not mean to imply that they are orphans whose family is gone. But they are forcibly placed in an unfavorable place.

I didn’t see anything that would hint at their old society being bad, but there was indeed “here is good” present, which could imply the former, depending on the angle. And the angle being “Russia is a great country”, there’s easily the corresponding association of its enemies, I concur.

By trying to look at the “not so bad” aspects of things, I’m not defending the bad. Thoughts are not black and white, having to be either for or against. For example:
My grandpa dies, and I say “He lived a long and prosperous life”. I’m not implying that dying is not bad, therefore good. There are nuances, just like with this conflict. “At least the kids get to laugh” is not defending/encouraging them being stolen away from their families.

What I’m getting at, is that considering the dark times we live in, we should not ignore the nuances. There are many good things that have come from this conflict, like an unprecedented unity among nations, people standing up against heinous acts, and an incredible support system.
But let me capitalize the following, so it’s abundantly clear:

This does not excuse the villains nor their acts!

While consequences should be given to the perpetrators, we should try and not get consumed by the darkness. There are many people caught in the middle suffering - do not let them suffer just because they are part of a system that is failing them. This includes Russia, US, as well as the rest of the world.

Russia is definitely not the country that has any right of taking in these children, as the aggressor and the sole reason for their misplacement. But from what I can tell, it’s not as bad as it could’ve been. There are ordinary, non-military non-political people there who wish these kids well, who have their head on top of their body. At the very least are attempting to teach love and not hatred, which is arguably much more constructive in the long term, regardless of what side you’re on. Though a love for “your nation” and “your government” can be shoved up a certain place regardless of what country is in the talks.

Good on the anonymous child psychologist who try and treat their early development of PTSD though, when there are things like this happening:

“When the children were on a boat on the Neva River and heard the cannon fired from the Peter and Paul Fortress, they dropped flat on the deck, face down — no one had warned them it was just a ceremonial shot,” the psychologist recalled.

I still wish to believe in the good people that are not corrupted by the government and politicians (yet?).

Who knows though, it might all be smoke and mirrors to avoid further persecution of the atrocities that were committed in the first place.

Also, I’d love to get the source for this (couldn’t find it skimming through VK):

A few days later, on Russia Day, counselors asked the children, “What does Russia mean to you?” and filmed their answers.

Здравствуйте все!
I’ve been actively trying to learn Russian for about two years now, and I’m still not very capable of having even simple conversations, due to the great difficulty of constructing sentences in my head. I guess I let the grammar get to me, with all the various prefixes and suffixes, so I choke. That, and the positioning of the words in a sentence. And also the concept of cases (all 7 of them). I know English and Norwegian from before, none of which has this slavic sentence logic/rules, so I find it incredibly difficult to remember/associate words/variations with their use.

I use Duolingo, Babbel, and sometime Rocket Language, in addition to trying to expose myself to having to read/listen/reply to other native speakers, but man am I having a hard time. Any suggestions?

Здравствуйте друг студент! I’ve been trying to learn it as well over the past 2-ish years, and it has proven to be a much slower progress than I had hoped for. How are you faring? And what methods do you use to learn?

Does Actiona suit your needs?

400 million, that’s quite substantial! And I image that number is far from done growing…

Unsure why you’re getting downvoted (this is “No Stupid Questions”, after all), but I’ll give my 5 cents:

Reason 1:
The people is essentially the reason why a government has power. Without the people (and their support), the government governs a whole lot of nothing, and they will be forced to do labour themselves.

Reason 2:
Poisoning the water is not very accurate, and may lead to both the death of many whom already are supportive of the government (which will create distrust), and people only getting sick depending on the amount they drink (the dose makes the poison).

Reason 3:
Despite a population having a lot of dissidents, these people still work and contribute to society in some ways. It has to get pretty bad before it will be “worth it” to remove them from society.

Reason 4:
Even if it’s so bad that you’re looking at an open revolt against the government, poisoning the water will only really yield MAD, which is usually undesirable.

Ultimately, it’s unlikely desirable for any government to do this, as there are better ways (for the government). However, there have been some attempts at genocide through water supplies before, so it’s not completely unheard of. Check out Project Coast.

I just now realized that the monkeys have this capability (reference StackOverflow), and this does open for some fun experimentation. Have you by any chance used a userscript for such a purpose before?

Yeah, a bit of an xy problem, I’ll admit. My ultimate goal would be invisible blocking/hiding from certain expected behaviors like the ones anti-adblockers employ. I’m not sure if what I have in mind specifically exists or not, but I find it fun to tweak and experiment with these kind of things. So I don’t necessarily have a problem I’d like to solve, it’s more an ask for directions/experiences.

I have tried Fiddler before, and it almost has the capabilities I’m looking for (it replaces an entire file; nothing granular), but it was a bit of a hassle to get working well last time I tried it, with the CA certificate, decrypting the TLS and stuff.

I haven’t heard of ZAP before, so this is new and intriguing! Thanks!