Fire 100% supports itself, each flame dies but that is like saying each of your proteins get denatured and recycled, the carbon you eat eventually turns into CO2, all your matter changes at some point.

That which takes in nutrients, processes them to support itself, and expels waste products. It is not a good definition of life, as it also excludes spores or many creatures in stasis, where they have absolutely no metabolism, wont take nutrients, process them or expel anything.

you just said it can be considered alive, but then you say isn’t

my point is simple, ask anyone with a biology degree,. that highschool definition is oversimplified and not useful. there is no working definition of life

‘how fire isn’t technically alive’

Why not?

It fits all the high school definition?

I am in no way defending him as a person.

My point is that conservatives have gotten so much worse, they have lost touch with basic humanity, they are incapable of making jokes because that involves some level of humanity to connect to the audience.

Similar things with art, Lion King is a really conservative movie (literally pro apartheid), but god dammit, it is an amazing movie. compare now with conservative movies that are trash.

And fire is clearly chemistry and not biology.

We just study life and don’t bother with the definition, its a “you know it when you see it” kind of thing

It is, no doubt.

But grew up with Tim Allen, and hes conservative, but was funny. No one can deny that Galaxy quest is funny.

Modern conservatives are just. not funny.

Using consistent language.

If fermented fish is rotten then cheese is rotten milk, bread os rotten dough, wine is rotten grapes, beer is rotten wheat, Jamon is rotten pork…

it’s insane, because growing up there were conservatives who were funny.

now they are so deranged and out of touch with basic humanity they cannot make jokes.

Monogamy??? in this economy??

if they play well they get to tavel to countries with better food.

It’s a national encouragement

French: Enjoy rotten milk with rotten grape juice?

Biology is the study is life.

If it is alive, it is under the purview of Biology.

what you’re doing, is trying to fit anything that fits the Highschool definition as alive. and you end up with chemistry rather than life.

You are very hunged up on highschool oversimplifications.

if fire is alive, would using a lighter count as abiogenesis?

Racism

there, you’re getting too philosophical and abstract.

fire isn’t alive, isn’t cannot evolve, no evolution… and you’re definitely failing biology.

point is that the highschool definition is bs, no biologist uses it, yet you’re stubbornly stick to it like a contrarian.

want to put my face in there and blow bubbles

honestly, it is strange when he tells the truth.

similar, my family is all MAGA, they don’t even live in America, they aren’t Americans, but absolutely adore MAGA.

Due to abusive ex, I live in the states fighting for my life to get a greencard so I don’t lose my daughters. My family is still MAGA.

solidarity is a lost virtue in some communities.

fire, isn’t alive. it isn’t biologically.

and we aren’t a thing, we replace our matter constantly, hence the matter wave idea.

The point is that basically every definition will fail in some edge cases.

and it ends up being more about philosophy than biology,

the whole point is that there’s no biological definition for life. we have one for medical context (brain dead, but mostly depending if it can be reversed, as soon as/if we figure how to resuscitate a brain dead person, we will have another threshold for the definition).

I think there’s a really good infinite monkey cage episode about this, one of their best episodes, I think it’s “what is death” from series 8. not 100% sure. but it’s a great listen anyways