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  • the problem is the population conception of things must be portrayed in a super simplistic narrative. and lay people think that narrative is how things work because they have no experience of the actual processes that go on in highly specialized areas of knowledge and research and such processes are entirely opaque to them.

    hence why a lot of people hate science and don’t trust it, because they literally can’t understand it. the science they learn in high school is nothing like the way in which contemporary science is done. and they feel like that is a failure of science itself, that it scientific inquiry can’t be a simple as a high school physics experiment than it’s ‘wrong’.

    I used to teach philosophy and about 70% of my students just straight give up on learning it once they realize they won’t get ‘answers’ out of it. their POV is that it’s suppose to give them answers they can use to beat other ‘stupid’ people over the head with… they don’t understand that they are learning a process or a skill. like they come into philosophy 102 thinking they will ‘learn’ the ‘answer’ to the question of ethics of abortion, and get angry/upset that they come away ‘knowing’ less than they did before, and feel ‘cheated’.

    average people don’t want to think, or challenge themselves intellectual. this want clear, definite, and simple answers from which to construct a worldview that is consistent and unchanging and therefore ‘correct’. and simplistic pop-psychology gives them that. so does religion. so does high school coursework in science.



  • the thing that most people fail to understand is there are multiple methods and approaches to various types of science.

    they make the faulty assumption there is one method and one truth. that isn’t how reality works. the scientific method isn’t really a strict method, it’s a generalized concept which is applied differently depending on the field and object of inquiry.


  • which formal logic? symbolic?

    there are lots of logics. typically people only ever learn/study the 101 version of it, but it’s own entire subfield with lots of applied areas and systems with their own unique rulesets and applications.

    just like your average high school student thinks physics is done with algebra alone, and has no idea with a field equation is or classical mechanics outside of Newton.

    most people who learn that stuff doing go beyond the 101/102 level because it’s not applicable for their jobs. like medical professionals. very few universities offer 300+ coursework on logic, it’s hyper specialized field with a few dozen folks working on it really, compared to say ethics, where you have probably 50K+ professors and most universities have graduate level coursework in ethics.




  • I mean… most of the american left… are like this. It’s most about feelings. They have no real coherent politican platform. They think sitting around feeling bad is the same as having a policy or a platform.

    If you put forth any course of actionable discourse, they basically tell you you’re an asshole because you are making them feel bad. I used be ‘involved’ and I gave up because all anyone wanted to do was sit around and jerk themselves off about their feelings and suggesting any action beyond interent memes was considered ‘oppressive’.


  • Yep. The issue is nobody wants to hear this, because everyone wants to be part of the economically privledged class and thinks they can do no wrong.

    part of the reason all this is happeneing is because working class has become so economically deprived and it’s considered shameful to be one of them, on either side of the politican spectrum. all of the politicians and their infrastructure is from the economic elite and their sole interest, no matter their party, is enhancing their own wealth at all costs as quickly as possible.

    personally i’m hovering at the top end of the pie, and most of my peers basically think i’m a weirdo/asshole for not chasing corporate stocks to maximimize my gains, and for not trying to get a corpo job to maximize my income. these are the same folks who preach leftism, but only do so by living off investments that come from the labor of their working-class they totally despise.

    they are 100% on board with exploitation as long as it means they get their vacations, their expensive cars, their education and housing that costs 6-7 figures. our university system is totally on board with it too, as long as the big fat research grants keep coming they could care who is thrown under the bus, and they don’t want filfthy working class poors on their campuses that require financail aid. they want the nice shiny children of the upper economic pie.





  • it’s not pessimism, it’s understanding how people work.

    The funny thing about leftist/progressive agenda is… everyone is for it, until it impacts them personally. Everyone wants more housing, more immigration, more education… until its in their town and their tax bill goes up. Then all the sudden they are VERY opposed to these things.

    My own very blue city just had lots of tax rates go up. All the sudden our very popular progressive major is getting a lot less popular… and her progressive plans to expand and fund new things is now being cut back…

    weird how that works, right? it’s almost as if people don’t want the things they say they want…

    everyone’s idealism disappears when the bills come due and the cold hard facts of finite resources and infinite demand slap them in the face.