Yeah I hear you. When I got mine I set up accounts for a bunch of them. The amount of tracking with EVs is scary though. Always on GPS and logs sent to the manufacturer, and it’s shared with 3rd parties. And they know when and where you charge and how much battery you charged or consumed, etc. And all the accounts is frustrating as hell.

I don’t think it’s quite so black and white

What EV? How far do you typically travel? I’ve found the payments offset the fuel costs in a fantastic way for the new one I bought a couple of months ago

Ah, but of course! Why didn’t I think of closing my bank account?

I agree. “The cloud” is just the same shit but someone else is running it and it has a web based UI. There’s also ways to make libreoffice collaborative too hiw m365 office is. We don’t need it.

I called this over a decade ago. Embrace, extend, extinguish, now all the prices hike what seems like quarterly or biannually. Such a joke.

Imagine. Companies that instead pay X amount pay X*.25 or something. Small cost for the business compared to Microsoft and huge boost in revenue to improve OSS.

Ok so it’s just hardware sales and they’ll still support it. That’s good.

Checkmate

You already do and they do, so yeah you’re right for once.

“Go play outside”

“Play with your toys”

“Do some arts and crafts”

“Listen to an audio book”

“Go read”

… So many ways parents can get a break, this is just the same but different in a more creepy way and using something that sucks up all our resources and takes our jobs.

Now this is the correct answer.

Not sure what to tell those who thought they’d give it a whirl and found out it wasn’t for them, however 😅.

I don’t know if it’s because I haven’t slept, but I must have read this comment 4 times and I just can’t comprehend what is being said.

What’s the difference between China, Russia and Donald trumps USA? I’m not sure anymore.

This. The industry is ruining everything. I get easier questionably accurate internet searches at the cost of a collapsing environment and removal of ownership of computer hardware. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Now the fun part. What would Microsoft name it?

I understand that signal will stop, my point is why bother putting in preventative measures.

Say there’s a law that says it’s illegal for Canadians to go to the united states. Say the united states has no border. Should the united states enforce border security because the Canadian government said so?

Listen, I understand what is happening and I’m not in any way supporting it, I just think it’s odd that signal has to pull out instead of the Canadian government blocking it. You know what I mean yet?

I just don’t think it’s so black and white. So I connect to a VPN that goes to… I dunno, Africa. Then I use signal. It’s still E2EE. And I’m still in Canada.

I’m saying they don’t have to block anything. “Hi I’m signal and I exist over here”. They aren’t enabling Canadians but just having servers on the internet.

I should clarify. Like if it’s on their website to download freely, why is it on them to police it? If thr gov is going to do something stupid like that, people can still download it.