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  • And that discredits the argument for aiding someone taken advantage of by a corporation, the argument that there exists rampant police ineptitude and/or corruption how?

    The existence of a GoFundMe to at least attempt to make a family whole does a lot more than the company doing nothing for years and threatening lawfare until they finally get some negative publicity.

    Is Ben making money off of this? Yes. Can his actions still be morally correct? Yes.

    We live under capitalism. We’ve tied our very survival to making money. How does that discredit what he’s attempting as you’re implying?

    Joshua Johnson? Brandon Best? That you?



  • Well, let’s do as much as we can to pressure legislators and the courts to hold parties accountable. The only reason anything is happening is because of the transparency and public response.

    It clearly demonstrates how our justice system, our laws, are set up to benefit and protect capital and property over human life and wellbeing. And I think that’s what so many of us see more clearly.

    An example, even if we assume that Tyler Shaw sues the American Fork PD and wins, it won’t be the officers involved, the chief of police, the DA, nor the judges who signed flippant warrants without any proper vetting, it will be the taxpayers who make them whole. The people suffer. At most, perhaps some of the officers involved may lose their jobs, which their corruption and/or ineptitude is a danger to the public in its own right.

    While Ben can’t speak about this, the public certainly still can and hold pressure to those involved to keep things moving. The main goal of all of this is the corporation wants to sweep this under the rug as quickly as possible. Very similar to the Epstein files, just on a smaller scale.



  • While potentially true, that doesn’t excuse any of the actions taken by the franchise owners, corporate, and especially the american fork police.

    Ben might’ve done some antagonistic things, but it’s overall good to bring light to all of this. So, so, SO many other people and families are taken advantage by corporate America like this.

    Biggest things are Ben and his friends are young and I think they trusted the police way too much. Did they do some things that could be considered antagonistic? Absolutely. And the whole claiming to flee to Mexico…ugghhh lol.

    They have not caused physical or mental harm to anyone as far as we’re aware.

    They may have instigated financial loss. However, that can also be easily argued that the initial action here was the company deciding not to make a family whole in any way.

    And that, herein, is what we all see. Property and capital receiving preferential treatment over human life.




  • Both sides declares all positions equivalent. The stethoscope explicitly doesn’t as it identifies authoritarianism as a shared mechanism while maintaining that ideological content and material outcomes differ by adding an additional axis.

    No true Scotsman excludes inconvenient examples by redefining categories. The model explicitly includes authoritarian leftists as an additional category.

    You’ve named two fallacies without demonstrating either one. Reading comprehension would help more than parroting pattern recognition without understanding. That’s even worse than AI reasoning.

    Polly want a cracker?








  • Most of these people who are still stuck on the tattoo can’t believe that you aren’t born with the knowledge innately of what Nazi iconography is.

    I, as someone from a rural red distruct, can honestly say we did not spend much time on WW2 in school. Nazis were bad, atom bomb was bad, einstein was super smart. That was about it.

    We didn’t go over what brain drain is or why it would happen (it’s happening now)

    We didn’t go over that during the era of WW2 that segregation was written into and being written into law (Jim Crow), and that the Nazis themselves learned from how we Americans wrote our cruelty into law, sometimes even being abhored at our level of cruelty.

    And I haven’t watched many movies. Everyone points to the “are we the baddies” meme, and to someone who is not aware, it could just be a symbol that was used in place of a swastika. I, personally, didn’t know it was a totenkopf, or that word, until this controversy. To someone who doesn’t have that knowledge, it’s the equivalent of a decepticon symbol. Are the people that put that on their cars actually secret cybertronians?

    People who are still hanging onto this don’t believe people can change nor do they understand that what might be considered common knowledge online is certainly not known by every person. And most of these people seem to be authoritarian supporters, left, center, and right.




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    Don’t let .ml see this.

    They were yelling at me to not vote Platner, to start a single man revolution.

    I’m ready for one, I hate our system, the democratic establishment is aiding fascism as much as the terrorist republicans. But not voting for the guy advocating for policy to help working class people, that calls out both democrats and republicans, that both parties are spending against…

    That’s just shooting ourselves in the foot at that point. People will die if a republican wins. Healthcare will be pulled back further. Etc etc.

    You would think the people yelling at you to read theory would understand it themselves.

    From Marx: dialectical thinking, I can work with 3rd party advocacy while recognizing the material and concrete situations as the exist currently and make strategic decisions.

    From Lenin: being a single individual starting a revolution would do nothing buy get myself killed and harm the building of a revolution. The first person who dies would not be a billionaire in such an ill conceived violent revolution without mass support and parallel alternative systems to capitalism to support revolutionaries.

    This image I’ve been resonating with as, of course, I’ve been attacked by the right, but now I’ve been fending off the authoritarian left and I think this is where the whole “horseshoe theory” really comes from. It’s just authoritarianism.