So, considering this is Lemmy I’ll clarify. I’m not talking about your neighbor who voted for Trump or your uncle who’s always been a dick. I’m talking about coming in contact with a deep down evil scary human. I’ve only met one that I can think of. When I was 12 or 13 I spent a ton of time at my best friends house. He lived on a big beautiful rural property with his dad, a few brothers and always one or two random dudes. His dad was a good electrician and a biker. So, he always had friends/associates hanging around. So one day I was staying over for a long weekend and we met a new guy his dad was housing for a week or two. Dude was a real full fledged nazi. Had a swastika under his eye and tats all over most of his body. He was from California I guess. He was “working” with my buddies dad for awhile. Anyway, the main interaction I had with him was when he pulled my friend and I in for a sermon. We were going to go hunt squirrels and do rural kid shit. He stopped us outside and had us sit on the porch. Spent about 20 minutes explaining all the things youd imagine a nazi explains. Moslty about catholics, jews and blacks. My friends dad came out after awhile and told him we didn’t need to hear that shit. He sent us away, but, I never forgot the look this dude had in his eyes. It was like the look of complete bordem mixed with extreme anger all the time.
I was asking why you disagreed with grouping them if the ideals they have that you listed are the same. The base that currently supports him is 1 in 5 so yeah statistically that’s my neighbor, welcome to the south, these are my neighbors.
So, doubling down that a violent literal nazi and any trump voter have the same ideals huh? I mean, you’re not saying anything uncommon on the internet but I promise the real world doesn’t work that way. If one fifth of the country was a violent extremist like that guy, we would have a completely different country than we do. Public executions would happen by hundreds of thousands if not millions, identifying as LGBTQ would result in execution, illegal immigrants wouldn’t be brought to detention facilities they would be killed in the streets immediately, interracial relationships would be banned, non propaganda media would be banned, any non Protestant religion would be banned, following any non Protestant religion would result in execution, segregation would be reinstated for non whites that haven’t been executed, slavery would be reinstated (not just the kind that we have in the prison system now). I recognize Trump is terrible and our current administration is horrible. That doesn’t mean that all his supporters have the same ideals as a violent nazi.
You’re introducing so much more information than the original post to differentiate, so yes by this point you’ve offered a totally different description and they are drastically different for this Nazi. Remember, however, that there were also Nazis never had blood directly on their hands but only did the internal paperwork to keep the Nazi government functioning.
I didn’t go into detail about what he said or the other times I spent time with him/associates. I didn’t because I assumed people had an idea of what real neo nazis want/preach. Those are SOME of the ideals actual neo nazis have. So, I know its a totally fine thing to say on the internet, but, in reality, Trump supporters and real neo nazis are completely different. If they had the power to legislate, all of the things I previously stated would happen among plenty of other terrible shit. You’re back peddling as if I wasn’t clear about the guy being a real nazi. Thats the disconnect, people are conflating being a nazi with just being a racist. Its an easy label to slap on to paint a side as objectively evil. I remember people calling every president in my lifetime Hitler for one reason or another. I have never voted for trump or a republican candidate. It’s good the American people are so wary of facism but do some research on what actual nazis and white supremacist groups want then compare that to former and current actions of this administration.