cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39088745

Lenovo or ASUS? Trying to figure out which laptop to go with.

Which company has a better reputation (in quality, privacy…), or are they both bad?

EDIT: I have come the the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop

  • Lyubo@lemmy.ml
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    6 小时前

    I think Lenovo has the worst with their spyware and adware built into their BIOS. Video from Louis Rossmann I have very bad experience with Lenovo’s business laptops hardware and software but Asus laptops aren’t very different either. Asus’ quality control seems to be garbage and their customer service even more garbage. Choose your enemy.

    Or go with Framework if possible. ⚙️✨

    • naitro@lemmy.world
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      AFAIK the ad/spyware wasn’t BIOS level, it was “only” bundled with the preinstalled windows. Also, while it doesn’t exonerate lenovo, the spyware doesn’t exist anymore.

    • Holeheadou92984@lemmy.worldOP
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      @Lyubo@lemmy.ml

      I think Lenovo has the worst with their spyware and adware built into their BIOS. Video from Louis Rossmann I have very bad experience with Lenovo’s business laptops hardware and software but Asus laptops aren’t very different either. Asus’ quality control seems to be garbage and their customer service even more garbage. Choose your enemy.

      Or go with Framework if possible. ⚙️✨

      Don’t know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework

      • Twongo [she/her]@lemmy.ml
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        6 小时前

        and i doubt you made an uninformed decision :)

        my advice would’ve been a 10yr old thinkpad with coreboot - which won’t work for everyone

  • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz
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    Idunno, but in terms of Lenovo just stay with the thinkpads.

    I know it’s an anecdotal evidence, but my friend bought a Lenovo Ideapad (or some other non-thinkpad), where the motherboard just died (he couldn’t boot at all) so it was replaced under warranty. Just before the end of warranty, the same issue arisen so it was replaced again, and I kid you not this new motherboard died AGAIN.

    • Holeheadou92984@lemmy.worldOP
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      @Lyubo@lemmy.ml

      I think Lenovo has the worst with their spyware and adware built into their BIOS. Video from Louis Rossmann I have very bad experience with Lenovo’s business laptops hardware and software but Asus laptops aren’t very different either. Asus’ quality control seems to be garbage and their customer service even more garbage. Choose your enemy.

      Or go with Framework if possible. ⚙️✨

      Don’t know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework

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    Lenovo is cheaper than ASUS. Also I feel their Linux support is better than Asus’s. Recently installed an EndeavourOS on my friend’s Lenovo, and every single thing is working as expected.

    • Holeheadou92984@lemmy.worldOP
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      I thought ASUS was cheaper than Lenovo. To me, ASUS is better known as a brand that offers good value and more affordable options. and Lenovo like Legion is usually more expensive

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        No. Lenovo is really good. Try buying on Black Friday or Christmas, they usually have offers. Also Lenovo has ‘Build your own spec’ kind thing for all their models. These are even cheaper. Also if you’re buying through their website, try staying in their cart page before checkout for about 5 mins, sometimes they will give you a small discount coupon, fearing you’re indecisive.

  • FoundFootFootage78@lemmy.ml
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    I use a Lenovo Thinkpad T495s, and everything works fine … except for the fact they put the “fn” key where “ctrl” should be. I’m also not at all a fan of the USB-C charging port.

    • Holeheadou92984@lemmy.worldOP
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      @Lyubo@lemmy.ml

      I think Lenovo has the worst with their spyware and adware built into their BIOS. Video from Louis Rossmann I have very bad experience with Lenovo’s business laptops hardware and software but Asus laptops aren’t very different either. Asus’ quality control seems to be garbage and their customer service even more garbage. Choose your enemy.

      Or go with Framework if possible. ⚙️✨

      Don’t know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework

  • monovergent@lemmy.ml
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    Lenovo’s ThinkPad line has a sterling reputation. Among the best in terms of quality, service, repairability, and Linux support.

    As for the largely consumer-grade options of ASUS and Lenovo’s consumer-grade IdeaPads, they’re rather similar in reputation and quality. Not exceptional, but they’re both perfectly fine options as long as you avoid the budget laptop segment (plastic chassis, broken hinges, etc.)

    Any difference in privacy would come down to the pre-installed software, which is irrelevant if you plan on using Linux. If you will be using Windows, it’s always better to install your own fresh copy to purge any potential spyware and bloatware installed by the manufacturer. The activation key for whichever edition of Windows it comes with is embedded in the BIOS, so it’ll activate automatically after a fresh reinstall.

    • Holeheadou92984@lemmy.worldOP
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      @Lyubo@lemmy.ml

      I think Lenovo has the worst with their spyware and adware built into their BIOS. Video from Louis Rossmann I have very bad experience with Lenovo’s business laptops hardware and software but Asus laptops aren’t very different either. Asus’ quality control seems to be garbage and their customer service even more garbage. Choose your enemy.

      Or go with Framework if possible. ⚙️✨

      Don’t know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework

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    Probably lenovo.

    Asus’ products are overpriced because a lot of times you end up paying extra for cringe aesthetic.

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    IMO, Lenovo. Have had Lenovos in the past, no issues. I know someone who had an ASUS and the hinge broke. Also, don’t go through Staples - their warranty is garbage.

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    I like Asus. They’re older than people think. They used to be Pegasus but they sucked then. So they rebranded. I’ve had nothing but good luck from a laptop they made plus a bunch of parts I built PCs with.

    Lenovo is Chinese and they bought Motorola and part of IBM I think? So they have some good stuff. But I’m more familiar with Asus and I like what they’ve made.

  • AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If you go with Lenovo make sure to get one with a real barrel power jack not just a USB-C. Several models with only USBC are plagued by multiple problems from possibly frying the board to mosfets literally coming unsoldered.

    I bought one with those issues. It’s still a great laptop, but it stopped charging till I took it apart and did a hack soldering job shorting the mosfets lol

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    Framework if you have the money. Otherwise Dell.

    Every single lenovo product that isn’t a thinkpad is a nightmare to repair. Their keyboards are plastic rivited in place, so you have to swap out the entire top half of the chassis to replace the keyboard. I’ve had unending issues with their ideapad line motherboards. That laptop went through two replacement motherboards and was out of commission for months. The build quality of their all-in-one is terrible and you have to do a complete disassembly to add ram. I say this as someone who had to do small business IT. I have fixed 4 separate models from them and each one had terrible build quality. Also, dont forget about the superfish scandal.

    Asus is fine. I and several friends have had many of their laptops. Though one of my friends had the motherboard on his TUF line completely died out of no where.

    Dell’s build quality and repairablitity remains solid. Easy to source replacement parts. Good Linux support. I’ve had the fewest problems with their hardware

    Also checkout framework if you have the money. Good stuff from them. Really how laptops should be. Each part has it’s own qr code so you can immediately identify it and get a replacement if needed. It’s amazing.

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      No they’re not. IBM sold the brand and supply chain off. Not sure how many employees were kept, transfered, or axed, but the concensus has long been that it wasn’t enough to justify your claim.

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        IBM had their ThinkPad laptops line until 2005. They sold it off, the entire PC business, which was a part of IBM, to Lenovo, a Chinese company. Lenovo bought the laptop designs, the tech, all, except the IBM name, obviously.

        I never mentioned anything about employees, but if you know anything about how manufacturing companies with production lines work, well, then you’ll know how all assets, including employees with their know-how and experience, are transferred to the new company when sold. Whether they remain with time is another matter.

        I do know what I am talking about.

        You can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad