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godlessworm [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 months ago

the basis for chomsky's anarchism is that age of consent laws are an unjust hierarchy that places adults above children

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the basis for chomsky's anarchism is that age of consent laws are an unjust hierarchy that places adults above children

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godlessworm [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 months ago
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  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Chomsky paling around with any billionaire on a private jet should immediately put his leftist credentials in question

    But also Epstein is the billionaire he chose to hang out with

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      his credentials were pretty bad before any of this came out. to me these takedowns are not survivable:

      • https://redsails.org/on-chomsky/
      • https://dashthered.medium.com/the-anti-chomskÿng-66dcd8224729
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        I’m not gonna stand by everything the guy ever said. But he is 97 years old for lord’s sake. chomsky-yes-honey He was born just a decade after the fall of Tsarist Russia.

        Nobody stays the same over 100 years. Chomsky’s been getting noticeably more inconsistent in his actions and statements since like… the year 2000, which is when basically all these criticisms are from.

        I’m not saying ‘ignore all old people’, but I am saying people change enormously over half a century and we shouldn’t judge them as if they are exactly the same person they were. To start picking apart the consistency of the ramblings or actions of a ninety-seven year old as if he’s still an on-the-ball scholar just feels a bit unnecessary.

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            Howso? A lot of his work and speeches pre-turning 70 seem to focus on how the US (and the west more generally) has no justification for any of its wars and criticising its other forms of imperialism.

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                EDIT: Not actually interested in defending him on re-think. My whole point is just that he’s scatterbrained and not the same thought figure he was.

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          Nobody stays the same over 100 years. Chomsky’s been getting noticeably more inconsistent in his actions and statements since like… the year 2000, which is when basically all these criticisms are from.

          Not really, people have been calling him out since the early 90s for hanging out with the head of the CIA and being a warhawk shitlib

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            Well, yes really, almost all the shared criticisms are of post-2000 events.

            And I agree that stuff is bad. I’m not saying he is completely defensible pre-2000, but he was much more politically consistent then than now.

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              I mean even before the 90s I could mention how most of his sociological output is just re framing already existing sociology in a manner that defangs its revolutionary potential - hes been ribbing on Steven Lukes and shit his entire career.

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        Cambodian genocide denial and Khmer Rouge apologia was also very bad, but unfortunately a lot of big leftist figures at the time engaged in it. It was one of those events where a lot of respected left wing figures got it extremely wrong in real time.

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            So is Joespeh Biden, Tony the tiger Blair and hitlers left toe apparently

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              The term you’re thinking of is moderate neoliberalism.

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                None of these are in ‘The Left’ unless you include people who are far right but occasionally do socially liberal things as leftists

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            Are they really

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          • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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            I mean more “far left” people like Samir Amin also engaged in Khmer Rouge apologia. It was a pretty big failure by a lot of communists. There are still Maoists to this day that do this.

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      Plot twist: Epstein was working for the Anarchists. He was a class traitor that was blackmailing billionaires and funding global leftism this whole time.

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        Well he did a really shitty job

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    Manufacturing consent.

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      kelly

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    goddamnit chomsky

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    No wonder he celebrated the fall of USSR. Lots of of young and extremely desperate children.

    “Victory for socialism”. Sure buddy more like victory for pedophiles.

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    I know Chonsker calls himself an anarchist but what exactly about anarchist praxis involved making a boatload of money being the intellectual equivalent to WALL-E?

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      Hes an anarchist in the sense that his handler at the CIA told him to say that in order to divert people from marxism

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    yes-honey-left

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    I tried to email him saying to burn in hell revisionist child fucker, but his inbox is full and it got bounced back lmao

    Seems like I woke up too late in the day to make it into the ‘die fucker’ chomsky line

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      sorry I must have filled up his inbox with pictures of Luigi last night

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