We have a couple of folks who are taking on AI work in a pretty individualized/haphazard way from what I can tell. While this is an important first step, this approach is insufficient to meet the challenges ahead of us imho.

It seems like we should organize amongst ourselves both as MLs, and also as an antidote to the inherently antisocial nature of the tech itself

Similarly, there’s currently no ML AI tech except that shit chatgpt wrappers by the WSWS.

I’m not particularly prescriptive about the form it takes, but just wanted to start the conversation

Let’s build collectively rather than individually

  • haui@lemmygrad.ml
    11·
    3 months ago

    Brillant ending. I too think that we need to “organize ai” and have stuff like red creators network on youtube readily at hand for everyone, same as a most complete set of current and former standard work of marxist leninist literature so we have a simple q&a style that can literally answer every theory fact there is and probably even show similarities between works or holes that need to be closed, etc. This would of course have the potential effect that one can copy paste the an attack from liberals the same way they do themselves and immediately see the flaws in their thinking. One could train on a “liberal from hell” who has just enough knowledge to make you go insane with their arrogance and so on.

    That said, we have multiple comrades working with and on AI to make it work for us. If they could state their current status it would probably make sense.

    • Philo_and_sophy@lemmygrad.mlOPEnglish
      7·
      3 months ago

      Couldn’t agree more comrade

      And it’s the previous duplicative efforts to gather all the Marxist literature that inspired this post. GitHub/hugging face are scattered with various attempts to build this text base, not to mention individuals here doing the same thing by scraping MIA/Prolewiki

      When we do not collaborate, its actually harmful imho to

      • the planet, unless you’re running all of this locally, you’re contributing to the pollution and water consumption crisis. And even if you’re are, you need to be on a clean grid to actually mitigate the consequences. By pooling resources, we can pursue training and inference to bring this tooling to the community with a known carbon and water footprint of nearly zero
      • the proletariat, the Q&A use case you made above is a great example of something that seems simple, but is quite hard and expensive to do in practice (we need to build up a dataset of exactly this style of question at a high rigor/academic level, and in a way where we don’t “leak liberalism” into the dataset or model. Nothing we make will be useful unless it’s trained on that data, so it makes zero sense for us to compete in creating that dataset rather than collaborate
      • the lay public and future generations, forgive the grandiose claim, but when communists have no material alternative to the techno fascist colonization of the future, we abandon those on the sidelines to “choose” this dystopian future because they have no other options

      To directly answer your question, I’m personally finishing a master’s degree this year, so I’m looking to root my knowledge in the community rather than the market. I’ve got local models up and running, and my next step is to build up that exact text archive you mentioned above

      • haui@lemmygrad.ml
        6·
        3 months ago

        Sounds great. Let me know if you make efforts to organize this. I’ll gladly join a group and take on tasks.