We have a couple of folks who are taking on AI work in a pretty individualized/haphazard way from what I can tell. While this is an important first step, this approach is insufficient to meet the challenges ahead of us imho.

It seems like we should organize amongst ourselves both as MLs, and also as an antidote to the inherently antisocial nature of the tech itself

Similarly, there’s currently no ML AI tech except that shit chatgpt wrappers by the WSWS.

I’m not particularly prescriptive about the form it takes, but just wanted to start the conversation

Let’s build collectively rather than individually

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlM
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    1 month ago

    Starting a discussion about the direction we want to see would be very useful. Very much agree that we have to start working on this collectively, and we have to come up with a concrete vision for what we aim to build.

    I’d argue that core principle should be that the models have to be open, doing what WSWS did with simply calling out to a proprietary service is not the way to go, these have to be tools that we own and control.

    We should also aim to make models that can be run locally which means focusing on 32bln or less params. Figuring out how to improve the quality of output for these models would be really important.

    The approach that petals is doing also needs to be explored, where they use torrent style distributed framework for training models. This avoids the need for big data centres for training new models.

    And @haui@lemmygrad.ml already did a great job covering the content creation aspect.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlM
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        1 month ago

        It might be good to figure out who’s all interested in this idea, will likely have some ideas here too. :) Maybe all of us who are interested in this could get together and talk through the ways we envision models being used, and how to facilitate that.

        There are basically three main aspects in my mind. First is education on why these tools are useful in general, why they shouldn’t be shunned, and how to apply them effectively. This is particularly important for people who aren’t developers themselves. Having good guides, and explanations. @CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml has already been doing some great work on that front with the crush community.

        Then there’s the aspect of how to apply these tools politically for effective agitation, making memes, writing essays, etc. This happens ad hoc right now, but it would be good to start building consistent Marxist messaging in general.

        And finally, there’s the development of these tools which falls to technical people with the expertise to make that happen.