This also applies to any other ambitious projects like intercontinental railway, nuclear power plant, hydropower plant, a cargo ship, a big airplane, roads, airports and most of technical civilization actually. How anarchism can be taken seriously? Oh, there is also a cancer version of it, ancap
We are not arguing about what is subjectively valuable according to some people. These things are materially necessary for our society to function. It doesn’t matter what someone says is important or not. What matters is the material reality of the situation.
Because we just kinda wanted to do it? It isn’t essential to quality of life, either. I mean, i love the idea of it, but it’s not an objective good to such a degree
And why we want them? To not die in some fucking cave. Some inventions are not just stupid whims. I agree that pickaps or private jets are such whims, bot not a power plant or a train. If anarchists thinks that this is not necessary, they are more stupid than I thought.
You’re replying to a comment about a lot more than just space travel. Those things are absolutely necessary to our civilization. They weren’t necessary for all of history because we didn’t have them but now we do. We know that there is no abstract civilization in general, each one exists in its historical context. Our civilization today needs all those things. If we just stopped doing them, huge numbers of people would suffer or die due to food and medicine shortages and all sorts of other related issues.
This also applies to any other ambitious projects like intercontinental railway, nuclear power plant, hydropower plant, a cargo ship, a big airplane, roads, airports and most of technical civilization actually. How anarchism can be taken seriously? Oh, there is also a cancer version of it, ancap
Why are we assuming that these things are all valuable according to anarchists? I think they are valuable myself, but this criticism doesn’t work
We are not arguing about what is subjectively valuable according to some people. These things are materially necessary for our society to function. It doesn’t matter what someone says is important or not. What matters is the material reality of the situation.
Space travel is not objectively essential to the functioning of civilization lol
Neither are the vast majority of technology over human history.
So why do we have them?
Because we just kinda wanted to do it? It isn’t essential to quality of life, either. I mean, i love the idea of it, but it’s not an objective good to such a degree
And why we want them? To not die in some fucking cave. Some inventions are not just stupid whims. I agree that pickaps or private jets are such whims, bot not a power plant or a train. If anarchists thinks that this is not necessary, they are more stupid than I thought.
You’re replying to a comment about a lot more than just space travel. Those things are absolutely necessary to our civilization. They weren’t necessary for all of history because we didn’t have them but now we do. We know that there is no abstract civilization in general, each one exists in its historical context. Our civilization today needs all those things. If we just stopped doing them, huge numbers of people would suffer or die due to food and medicine shortages and all sorts of other related issues.
It says space programs not space travel. Without them, life as we know it changes radically and for the worse.