Oh no, how will I now access the Matt Christman Show Without Matt Christman?
class analysis was the secret ingredient. on a recent episode Will and Felix fumbled around in the metaphorical dark for five minutes without it. It’s kind of sad that the other hosts could listen to Matt for almost a decade and learn nothing. I guess they just wait for their turns to talk.
a beautiful patron has conveyed the following: https://jumble.top/
Might as well listen to episode 1000 and find out what they deleted the sub over.
Ah shit it’s a Westwing bit.
I don’t understand how to use this.
Copy the .xml links into a podcast app to get the listed podcast’s premium feed. There’s also https://piratefeeds.net/ for a few more links. These are pinned to the top of /c/podcasts.
can you recommend one? I really only used Podbean and Patreon
Antennapod on android
I think the Apple Podcast app lets you add RSS URLs too given they invented the format.
gPodder (I don’t know why it looks like butt plug either) on desktop
I just tried this rss and it’s only the free EPS now I think jumble has been compromised to a permanent end
works for me
Har har har! 
My browser makes the entire tab red and there’s a warning.
This site has been reported as unsafe
The entire .top TLD is blacklisted by some security tools because it’s often used by malware.
That’s wild that a podcast as popular as CTH doesn’t already have a fan subreddit, wonder why there isn’t one already
Virgil’s pension account was too light this month, time to cull the leeches.
I heard a rumor hes living in Berlin now
Maybe he should move to Israel
Virgil is in a heavily wooden paneled room. He’s sitting in a 1800s easy chair. He’s in a morning coat with a cigar in his mouth, a monocle in one eye, and he’s on one of those old-timey phones from ~100 years ago that has two parts. He’s talking to his broker through his cigar and he proclaims “I say - good man - I am calling to check on my portfolio…”
-–
I don’t know why I immediately had that mental image but I did. A morning coat…
Why would Chapo suddenly want a fan subreddit? They hated the fan subreddit.
Felix Biederman has been a repeated guest on Hasan’s stream. Felix is actually one of the main people who convinced Hasan to start streaming on twitch around 2018, prior to that, Hasan was a facebook streamer. Hasan and Felix played Fortnite together.
Felix has talked about the chapo subreddits multiple times on Hasan’s stream. On multiple occasions, Felix said that he hated /r/chapotraphouse and he was glad that it got banned. Felix has said that he was fine with /r/blackwolffeed as long as they only shared the premium chapo episodes and not the spinoff shows.
Why would Chapo suddenly want a fan subreddit? They hated the fan subreddit.
It generated more growth than anything else in the show’s history and they probably had to learn the hard lesson that it was good for them rather than bad for them whether they liked it or not.
In the early stages of the show. Now that these pioneering wave of podcasters have made it and accepted in mainstream, it’s time to pull the ladder up.
The pod’s pretty boring and forgettable nowadays anyways
They shouldn’t have closed the sub. They could at least force Patreon/Reddit to go through the effort of closing the sub. Doing the work for them is a bit rubbish.
I’m guessing they were spooked by the phrase “legal remedies”, unfortunately
Yeah, I can see wanting to call the bluff. The timing on this, with Chris suddenly getting them proper social media accounts elsewhere, strikes me more as Chapo wanting control of the biggest fan presence on Reddit (maybe on the internet?) than anything the Patreon overlords had to say.
But I get as just some unpaid reddit mod not wanting to tempt fate with legal actions directed toward you and just saying “fuck you I quit.”
Their pretentious gloating over the shut down of their own sub and dunking on their own fans was such try hard lameness.
it soured me on them ever since. Will in particular was jubilant and sadistic (and kept bringing it up for months to gloat)
So, so weird, I didn’t understand it at all. The only possible explanation is that some people criticised/made of fun of him and he got butthurt
if I had a low effort money hose lying around I might also take steps to protect the hose from time to time
Blaming it on Patreon seems weird, they might care about the private link sharing but I seriously doubt Patreon gives a shit about the reuploads.
And the correct way for Patreon to deal with this would be to change the tokens in the private links when they find them online and tell their users that their account has been breached and that they need to update their password and RSS feeds.
I have no problem believing that Patreon would be digging through the couch cushions like this, given what I know about their financial state. CTH is in the top 5 Patreon accounts in terms of earnings, and has been for a decade, so it’s not like they wouldn’t be on Patreon’s radar. The podcast is making more money than it ever has, so I assume it’s not because the hosts are going broke and need to pump the numbers.
If they’re being too cool about letting people sidestep Patreon then Patreon may be pressuring them to make an effort to keep paywalled content paywalled. I have no idea how Patreon works as a creator nor what steps Patreon could take, but I do know that they’re a for-profit digital platform and that digital platforms are assholes who will play hardball. I’m going to give Chris Wade the benefit of the doubt here, given that they’ve spent a decade not caring whether anyone is paying them.
It would be a funny way of bringing back the podcast subreddit. I don’t ever want to go back to reddit, but I wouldn’t mind seeing what happens from the outside. I hope the mods hand the sub over and then maybe we could see some John Brown memes make a comeback.
I think the issue was that people were sharing pirated feeds for other podcasts on the subreddit so that might have alerted patreon
I have no problem believing that Patreon would be digging through the couch cushions like this
The amount of people in this thread, unable to believe that the money-hungry corporation is actually money-hungry, is baffling to me.
Blaming the chapo hosts directly just feels like people’s parasocial relationship talking
Agreed. People here are clearly salty the chapo hosts didn’t like their subreddit before and it’s making them forget how every digital platform corporation has ever acted in the history of corporations.
I don’t think Patreon has exclusivity deals with creators. But I haven’t really looked into Patreon from a creators side.
Their Patreon account manager is probably nudging them about it but I doubt the chapos are getting coerced to do this.
The phrasing suggests that it’s about the sub being used for pirating a bunch of different shows and not just chapo, which might explain why patreon would care.
That seems like the sort of thing that Chris could just say if it was the case.
Unfortunately, Patreon has informed us they can no longer tolerate the piracy here, especially since this subreddit has become a hub for sharing bootleg feeds collecting a number of Patreon accounts.
I think this is him just saying it, and then he says:
We are trying our best to keep Patreon out of the picture here
And then signs it:
- Chris + Chapo Team
So you can say he’s lying and I have no means of contradicting you, really, but he’s definitely claiming that it’s not about the chapo people siccing Patreon on the sub to shut down the chapo feed.
Hope he’s not lying because I just cancelled all my memberships on patreon and told them to go fuck themselves over this.
If he’s lying Patreon will be pissed off at him and Chapo for saying it’s Patreon doing this.
Yeah, I believe Chris too and fully support the response of “fuck Patreon,” I just try to be epistemically conservative when talking to someone who seems likely to be hostile to how I’m inclined to see a given issue so that we can focus on things that we can agree on (like the content of the message).
Patreon are dumbasses if they think that people who are pirating one creator aren’t also supporting other creators. It’s a huge fucking mistake to interfere in piracy at an individual-creator level because pissed off people will stop using the entire platform over one of those interferences.
They should focus their piracy-related efforts on things affecting the whole platform instead. Taking down kimono.party wouldn’t cause people to cancel their subscriptions by comparison. Individual level stuff is going to lose them money where sitewide stuff would not. Sitewide stuff is just more effort and harder though so some dumbasses at the company think they’re doing the right thing by going after things at the individual creator level. They’re going to learn the hard way that this generates significantly more losses than it produces in gains. If I know how to pirate one creator and I’m pissed off, I know how to pirate ALL creators.
They’re being massive dipshits.
Missed that part. Still could easily have said stop pirating other podcasts
I wouldn’t take for granted that Patreon is interested in that counteroffer.
Patreon doesn’t own Chapo, it’s really not their business.
Chapo needs to make up their mind how they feel about piracy and after 1000 episodes it looks like they have decided they rather don’t want it.
The threat isn’t to Chapo, it’s to this sub that Chapo has some connection to, which it seems they wanted to just shut down because it was a general piracy vector, and perhaps they weren’t moved by the idea of the sub continuing to exist on the pretense that it is merely a source for pirating chapo since we both know that it would never remain constrained to that.
To be clear, this is a tepid defense of Chris, who I don’t think could really do anything here, not Patreon.
It is their business if their feeds are the ones being shared to private content. They likely have a duty to enforce IP protection as part of their contract with creators.
Patreon go on Chapo
Also heres the masterthread for all the slop feeds because fuck em
Long live @jumble@hexbear.net thought
I just tried the RSS on here and it’s only the free eps I think they got us
The creative class owes me their labor for free.
The speculation on the reddit thread is that the Chapo hosts got upset at the subreddit dunking on their 1000th episode.
i find that unlikely because they’ve shit on many many episodes before lol
It’s pretty lame. Stopped it after 15 minutes.
I wonder if that’s actually true. In any case - it’s funny to think about. They started a podcast that skewers people for such stuff as being petty, ridiculous, and vain. And by the 1,000th episode they’ve become what they’ve made their money making fun of.
Nietzsche has something to say about that -
Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.
I know it’s usually a different quote
the ghost of mary_malloc can finally rest in peace 😌
Subscription count isnt growing so its time to squeeze the existing subs.
