• manxu@piefed.social
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    6 months ago

    According to the internal polling, a staggering 60% of independent voters disapproved of Trump’s immigration policy

    I sense the word, “staggering,” has received a new definition, coz 60% is not staggering in the 2024 sense.

    The private polling was completed at the end of December, just days before ICE fatally shot Minnesota woman Renee Good

    Alright, that might make a dent in the 40% supporting this shit show.

    As recourse for the abysmal polling numbers, an individual […] advocated for members of the Trump administration to make appearances […] to promote the “positive” aspects of Trump’s immigration policy, the outlet.

    I could definitely see how an appearance by chief screeching howler monkey Miller or head cash bag grabber Homan would explain to us how this is all Very Normal and Good for the Nation. /s

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      That’s not 60% of all voters. That’s 60% of people who aren’t Democrats. Which is already a minority of voters. Trump needs 90% of his base because he gets 0% of everyone else.

      Think about it. He got half the vote. Now he is getting a disapproval rating from more than half of that half. If that holds true they are going to lose every single race in the mid terms and for the foreseeable future.

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        That’s not quite it either. It’s 60% of independent voters, so it also doesn’t include MAGA. It’s the swing voters, which happen to be the only voters who really matter.

        But, fortunately for the GOP, they’re also easily swayed by the “both sides” narratives and can be disillusioned into staying home instead of voting. It’s why voter turnout is one of the biggest predictors in whether the Dems or the GOP will win an election. Independent voters have trended more leftward in recent elections because the GOP is fucking insane.

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          There is no such thing as an independent in the United States. It has been code for “conservative” for decades and its a core part of Trumps base.

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            I’ll disagree here. I’m one of those mythical independent voters. I have no party affiliation, and subscribe to Jefferson’s philosophy:

            I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in any thing else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.

            However, most conservatives see me as a lefty, because most of my views, especially on social issues, are consistent with left-wing policies.

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            Several states don’t have party registration, my swing state included. That changed after I first registered to vote so I’m not sure what my registration looks like now; I can’t change it even if I wanted to. This has the effect of making everyone in the state, at least those who registered since the change, an independent voter, even if they are party loyalists. They simply don’t have a choice to be anything but independent.

            So while it may be true that there are no undecided voters, that’s not really what they are looking at.

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      the article is clickbait trash

      I can’t see why this would matter to the usual basket of deplorables any more than the litany of prior horrors