No typically your source for which way the wind blows would be a device which tells you, or you’re standing outside in the wind. Are you in Venezuela or do you have a real source? If not you’re just making it up
You need an influencer to hand feed you information, it’s getting kind of pathetic. Can’t even see what is right in front of you, can’t even recognize indisputable fact. On this one I would start to suspect your sincerity in not recognizing what I say is true. It is indisputably true, asking for a source for helicoptors being vulnerable to weapons systems venezuela had on the ground in spades is next level ignorant.
That is speculations, not “indisputable facts”. Speculations can be fine, sometimes it is the best we have access to, but the reasoning of some guy on the internet is not a source about facts on the ground in Venezuela.
Your theory on the US terrorist attack and abduction of Maduro is one among several. There are other theories with some level of credibility out there, such as:
Venezuelan defenses were disabled by American electronic warfare
Venezuela fucked up and was taken by surprise
The Venezuelan government made a Faustian bargain with Washington, offering Maduro as a symbolic victory to Trump
Venezuela stood down, fearing retaliation against civilians if US American terrorists were hurt
Just remember that the talking to this guy is not for the guy, but for the people reading your conversation. When I joined the internet, these kind of exchanges made me understand human behavior, see how to properly reason, and they still provide important information. This exchange was useful to me.
okay your two neurons are firing, you’re starting to think about evidence and things like cause and effect
So, what do you know about Venezuela’s military capabilities? What weapons? How many and where? What countermeasures do the Americans have for them? Do you actually KNOW anything, or are you just going “it’s easy to shoot down a helicopter, that they didn’t means they MUST have allowed them in”? Because it really sounds like the latter, and that really sounds like YOU inadvertently supporting the american line that the U.S. won and all it really needed to do was kidnap or kill Maduro.
P.s. were the 100 people killed just crisis actors or something
That’s pretty easy to do since I can go find pictures of helicopters being shot down and look up articles with sources talking about helicopters being shot down.
yeah, we should just take your arrogant word for it. Seems a lot more likely to me that the Venezuelan military got caught with their pants down and bungled the defense, the Amerikkkan military has plenty of stealth and jamming technology to disrupt air defense for an operation like this
Bootlickers would be hard pressed to cover for the administration more than you here. You have nothing in reality to work with so it’s not easy because I am undeniably right, in my arrogance in not pretending to believe what I’m told by the worst people in the world.
believe what I’m told by the worst people in the world
You’re believing what the U.S. is telling you but with a rube goldberg machine like set up of convoluted “thinking” where you’ve landed at “Venezuela is a U.S. puppet and they really did just need to kidnap Maduro like it’s a game of chess and they got the King”
Yeah because the fbi calls out administration lies to further their imperial ambitions. That makes a lot of sense. Totally braindead remind me not to tell you guys anything, you need permission first I guess.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You’re alleging that an entire military command collaborated with their enemy. You’ll have to provide some proof for that.
You just keep spinning off to some other claim instead of supporting the positions you’ve already brought up. You have to bring substance or your words are farts.
Yes, it could be a military coup. It could also be the US using classified alien technology they found in the Bermuda Triangle.
But the simplest explanation is that Trump / Rubio were angry at Venezuela, their generals told them a ground war would be Vietnam 2.0, and that it would be safer to kill / kidnap one of their leaders and declare victory. The US can do this - Venezuela has one modern Russian-made air-defence battery (see MarmiteLover’s posts in the news threads) and that can’t cover the entire country. (Older systems won’t work against the modern US military.)
Yeah but in this metaphor, you are the weatherman. You’re telling us which way the wind is blowing. Humans do need to communicate with other human beings when disseminating information. It’s kind of our thing.
Source?
You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Well you and the flock do I suppose.
No typically your source for which way the wind blows would be a device which tells you, or you’re standing outside in the wind. Are you in Venezuela or do you have a real source? If not you’re just making it up
You need an influencer to hand feed you information, it’s getting kind of pathetic. Can’t even see what is right in front of you, can’t even recognize indisputable fact. On this one I would start to suspect your sincerity in not recognizing what I say is true. It is indisputably true, asking for a source for helicoptors being vulnerable to weapons systems venezuela had on the ground in spades is next level ignorant.
That is speculations, not “indisputable facts”. Speculations can be fine, sometimes it is the best we have access to, but the reasoning of some guy on the internet is not a source about facts on the ground in Venezuela.
Your theory on the US terrorist attack and abduction of Maduro is one among several. There are other theories with some level of credibility out there, such as:
You can go ahead and wait for permission to consider undeniable facts as mentioned. You are not worth talking to.
Lmao I knew this shithead wasn’t going to be worth engaging with
Just remember that the talking to this guy is not for the guy, but for the people reading your conversation. When I joined the internet, these kind of exchanges made me understand human behavior, see how to properly reason, and they still provide important information. This exchange was useful to me.
They’re asking you to support your argument with something other than “it is known” you fucking gob
“prove” that helicopters are vulnerable to weapons systems?
You should be ashamed of your ignorance.
okay your two neurons are firing, you’re starting to think about evidence and things like cause and effect
So, what do you know about Venezuela’s military capabilities? What weapons? How many and where? What countermeasures do the Americans have for them? Do you actually KNOW anything, or are you just going “it’s easy to shoot down a helicopter, that they didn’t means they MUST have allowed them in”? Because it really sounds like the latter, and that really sounds like YOU inadvertently supporting the american line that the U.S. won and all it really needed to do was kidnap or kill Maduro.
P.s. were the 100 people killed just crisis actors or something
That’s pretty easy to do since I can go find pictures of helicopters being shot down and look up articles with sources talking about helicopters being shot down.
Then why are you being shitty to silence the fact that the coup in venezuela was a us sponsored military coup without question?
Maybe you are in on it.
Oh god o fuck I’ve been found out!
yeah, we should just take your arrogant word for it. Seems a lot more likely to me that the Venezuelan military got caught with their pants down and bungled the defense, the Amerikkkan military has plenty of stealth and jamming technology to disrupt air defense for an operation like this
It is arrogant realizing fact, got it.
Bootlickers would be hard pressed to cover for the administration more than you here. You have nothing in reality to work with so it’s not easy because I am undeniably right, in my arrogance in not pretending to believe what I’m told by the worst people in the world.
You’re believing what the U.S. is telling you but with a rube goldberg machine like set up of convoluted “thinking” where you’ve landed at “Venezuela is a U.S. puppet and they really did just need to kidnap Maduro like it’s a game of chess and they got the King”
The guy posting moving pictures as a reply makes a nonsensical argument, shocker.
ok liberal
No I need facts about the world to understand how the world works rather than relying on whatever my brain makes up
Not sure these thoughts are coming from hector’s brain.
I think they’re from his
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Yeah because the fbi calls out administration lies to further their imperial ambitions. That makes a lot of sense. Totally braindead remind me not to tell you guys anything, you need permission first I guess.
You fuckin rock dude
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You’re alleging that an entire military command collaborated with their enemy. You’ll have to provide some proof for that.
Ha ha, yeah, a military coup sponsored by the US, it’s unheard of! Why would I give a shit what some bootlicker thinks though?
That’s a good question, and a funny one coming from you.
Uh huh. As if Russia wasn’t sponsoring facists across the west, supporting the US regime.
You just keep spinning off to some other claim instead of supporting the positions you’ve already brought up. You have to bring substance or your words are farts.
You see, nobody gives a shit what you think
You are expressing a (perfectly justified) fear you have in your heart
Yes, it could be a military coup. It could also be the US using classified alien technology they found in the Bermuda Triangle.
But the simplest explanation is that Trump / Rubio were angry at Venezuela, their generals told them a ground war would be Vietnam 2.0, and that it would be safer to kill / kidnap one of their leaders and declare victory. The US can do this - Venezuela has one modern Russian-made air-defence battery (see MarmiteLover’s posts in the news threads) and that can’t cover the entire country. (Older systems won’t work against the modern US military.)
Yeah but in this metaphor, you are the weatherman. You’re telling us which way the wind is blowing. Humans do need to communicate with other human beings when disseminating information. It’s kind of our thing.
I guess that would make you a flat earther.