Like what is the enforcement mechanism for “nobody is allowed to grow crops or build things anywhere on Earth”

Or do they actually expect the entire global population to unanimously decide they don’t want potable water or antibiotics anymore

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    So it is, in fact, “they actually expect the entire global population to unanimously decide they don’t want potable water or antibiotics anymore (or at least close enough to suppress everyone else)”?

    Only inasmuch as communists “expect the global population to unanimously decide they don’t want capitalism anymore” I guess. They’re not expecting this to happen by magic, they’re expecting to convince people of their ideas then form communities of people who share those ideas.

    And if we’re going to separate the people who actually think and have theory and write stuff down and are in any way serious from the people who are trolling on the internet, then “we don’t want potable water or antibiotics” is a position held only by the latter group. It isn’t necessary to dismantle every single aspect of the current society we live in in order to do away with the parts which are harmful.

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      Only inasmuch as communists “expect the global population to unanimously decide they don’t want capitalism anymore” I guess.

      We don’t at all, that’s why this site has emotes like how-compelling barbara-pit gulag, we freely acknowledge that a non-trivial number of people oppose our project and thus implementing that project requires violently suppressing them.

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            I already answered that question, unless you mean that you think a system must be imposed on literally every person globally all at once in order to be considered successful.

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              I already answered that question

              Where?

              unless you mean that you think a system must be imposed on literally every person globally all at once in order to be considered successful.

              Anprim as a movement considers the existence of an agricultural society anywhere on the face of the Earth an intolerable threat that must be annihilated, so yes their definition of “victory” necessarily entails the ability to enforce their vision on the entire world (or at least all the arable parts).

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                Where?

                In the first paragraph in my first comment in this thread.

                “They’re not expecting this to happen by magic, they’re expecting to convince people of their ideas then form communities of people who share those ideas.”

                Anprim as a movement considers the existence of an agricultural society anywhere on the face of the Earth an intolerable threat that must be annihilate

                Are you interested in learning or are you here to tell everyone about what you’re pretty sure anprims believe?

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                  Are you interested in learning or are you here to tell everyone about what you’re pretty sure anprims believe?

                  I was under the impression the goal of the movement was to abolish civilization. Is it something else?

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                    And the goal of communism is the abolition of class, money, capitalism, etc. Nobody’s done this so far, so all communists are failures?

                    Not to mention that I don’t think “abolishing civilization” is a real thing anyone actually thinks is possible. Any two humans is civilization, we’re gonna use tools and provide for one another and build stuff and all that. The goal is to deindustrialize, to what extent is a matter for debate.