I don’t think anyone using AI for this has good intentions. They are trying to increase their own “reputation” without putting in the work. If they are in the field they should know that someone has to review this. If they can’t be bothered to do that then they know they are making someone else do this unpaid labor without having even checked it first. If they are not in the field then they think spending money on their own pet project is the best way to support instead of giving money directly to the team doing the actual work. If the team wanted to use that money on AI they could then do so themselves. It’s a self interested thing either way.
Most of the people using AI to contribute are probably like the guy who got so upset his pet AI wasn’t allowed to contribute he likely promoted it to write a hit piece on the person who rejected it. Just narcissistic people who wish they were better than they are and wasting time and resources hoping to feel better about themselves and their contributions.
In the spirit of level 7: I use capitalised pronouns in all three grammatical persons
I don’t think the Bourgeois created intentionalism, but I do think they’re responsible for its prevalence in our modern society. The degree to which most people are concerned with intentions is so stifling, unhealthy, and unsustainable that I do not believe it can be natural. We live in an age of relatively little social upheaval. There are fewer revolutions and wars than usual right now, and that’s not entirely a good thing. Look at the USA - they are in desperate need of a civil war, or we shall soon be fighting world war 3. Yet the people are far more passive than we would expect from history. Nonviolent resistance is also down, so it’s not just military technology. It’s propaganda.
I think intentionalism is a meme - an idea that through natural selection has taken on a life of its own. And because it helps the Bourgeoisie, they, perhaps unconsciously, create conditions that favour it in their media empires.
You know, I don’t think the “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” thing is true anymore. It made sense back in the 70s when the USA had what the capitalists call a middle class, but that group is getting smaller and smaller. Wealth inequality is higher than it’s ever been in history, according to some measures. Maybe I’m just not in touch with the youth anymore, but everyone I know treats “Sigma male grindset” as a joke and knows our generation is never buying houses.
Then again I’ve lived in a homeless shelter and surround Myself with antirealists, so what do I know about the consciousness of white suburbia?
“you” as the pronoun for hypothetical people is perfectly amenable to Me. However I know other capitalised pronoun users, and the risk of misunderstandings and the annoyance of clarification has lead Me to use “one” as the hypothetical pronoun instead in most cases, and thus I recommend it to make your life easier as well.
I confess I don’t fully understand how increased assumptiveness should lead to an increased value placed on intentions as excuses for wrongdoing.
Ah, so it’s a decline in skepticism leading to increased trust in scammers’ stated intentions.
Well, even if we think we know another’s intentions, that doesn’t mean we value them. I think everyone has good intentions, but I don’t base My actions on those intentions. I think even if assumptiveness is prevalent, intentionalism still must be high as well to explain the society we currently live in.
First off, you take great pains to establish and reinforce the assertion that evil doesn’t exist, but is rather a construct created from ignorance. But then at the end you assert that ignorance is being spread by the bourgeois in an evil plot. You’re just following circular logic by this point.
Second, the assertion that all evil stems from ignorance of the harm of others is concerningly naïve. Many rapists don’t have trouble understanding what their victims experience. Quite the opposite - rape and abuse is often about taking power over others, and the knowledge of marking their victims so throroughly that they’re traumatized drives that.
Third, sociopaths exist. Sociopathy is a recognized mental condition with one of the defining characteristics being the inability to experience empathy. It doesn’t matter how long you spend teaching a sociopath about how much harm they might do, because they can’t care.
You were going in a good direction in the first half of the blog post, and I don’t necessarily disagree with your point that the ruling class wants to keep everyone else pacified. But the route you take to try to connect those two points just simply doesn’t work. The unfortunate truth of the world is that some people are just evil. I recommend you take some time to think on your philosophy more, because trying to insist that evil doesn’t exist potentially opens you up to becoming a victim in the future.
trying to insist that evil doesn’t exist potentially opens you up to becoming a victim in the future.
No, it doesn’t. I have battled with some vile abusers who did horrible things. I deplatformed a pedophile by releasing leaked screenshots that showed the individual online dating children. Azsula believed that Azsula’s actions were ethically okay because consent doesn’t exist. I organised a campaign to contact everyone on Azsula’s discord server and send them the article with the screenshots. I told people to leave, and not give their time or presence to abusers, and over 1/3 of them did, leading Azsula to shut down the discord server and retreat from public life. I did so in the full knowledge that Azsula’s intentions were not malicious, that Azsula didn’t mean any harm. The reason why I was able to do so is that I think ignorance of the consequences of one’s actions is itself a form of violence which must be dealt with.
And I don’t agree that sociopathy is a recognised mental condition. It doesn’t have a DSM entry. What it does have is a note in the ASPD section saying that sociopathy is sometimes used as a slang term for ASPD. ASPD is a recognised mental condition, sociopathy is not. And I have met people with ASPD who had managed to learn a little of the skill of empathy. It was hard for them to do, but not impossible.
So you deplatformed a single pedo who claimed it was from ignorance, after you destroyed their audience? I don’t buy their story.
And I have met people with ASPD who had managed to learn a little of the skill of empathy. It was hard for them to do, but not impossible.
They can understand it intellectually, but they don’t feel the same feelings. There’s a trait in autism called “masking” where you just learn to emulate what non-neurodivergent people do.
Also note that I never claimed that sociopaths are guaranteed to be terrible people or even vice versa. Just that they are an example of people that are unable to feel empathy. A couple of people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder learning to mask doesn’t change tgeir condition.
No, the pedo claimed that consent doesn’t exist before I destroyed the pedo’s audience. I got My hands on a year’s worth of private chatlogs and searched them extensively to find the most incriminating screenshots to prove beyond any doubt that Azsula was dating those kids. So I got a pretty thorough understanding of the nature of the relationship and how they justified it to themselves. They were anti-ageist political radicals, who considered age of consent laws to be ageist. The pedo has an adult body but identifies as a child internally. So that’s why it feels justified to Azsula internally. Doesn’t feel justified to Me, though.
rooted in a fundamental belief that everyone wants to be good at heart
What about if antisocial personality disorder is mostly genetic? Couldn’t some of the behaviors be defined as intentional? It’s still not that person’s fault of course. How does that fit into your theory?
ASPD comes with reduced empathy, and thus reduced ability to visualise and anticipate the harm caused by one’s actions. I think people with ASPD mean well in terms of seeking to bring joy to all those they remember are capable of experiencing it. They just forget sometimes that other people exist.
Hmm, maybe, I don’t really know. I think my uncertainty is in understanding if we have various genetically driven behaviors like so many other animals. Many of us (animals) kill and do many harmful (malicious) things to each other for survival and reproduction. We may not see it as malicious when other animals do it, because it’s “natural.” We seem to pretend that we aren’t part of nature. Some traits like ASPD do seem to greatly aid in the survival game.
Do you believe that there are many behaviors of animals that genetically predetermined?
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I don’t think anyone using AI for this has good intentions. They are trying to increase their own “reputation” without putting in the work. If they are in the field they should know that someone has to review this. If they can’t be bothered to do that then they know they are making someone else do this unpaid labor without having even checked it first. If they are not in the field then they think spending money on their own pet project is the best way to support instead of giving money directly to the team doing the actual work. If the team wanted to use that money on AI they could then do so themselves. It’s a self interested thing either way.
Most of the people using AI to contribute are probably like the guy who got so upset his pet AI wasn’t allowed to contribute he likely promoted it to write a hit piece on the person who rejected it. Just narcissistic people who wish they were better than they are and wasting time and resources hoping to feel better about themselves and their contributions.
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I think intentions are a spook created by the bourgeois to control us, and I wrote an article on My blog about it https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/8-deeper-levels-to-understand-accidents-and-intentions-308c7dc9b742
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In the spirit of level 7: I use capitalised pronouns in all three grammatical persons
I don’t think the Bourgeois created intentionalism, but I do think they’re responsible for its prevalence in our modern society. The degree to which most people are concerned with intentions is so stifling, unhealthy, and unsustainable that I do not believe it can be natural. We live in an age of relatively little social upheaval. There are fewer revolutions and wars than usual right now, and that’s not entirely a good thing. Look at the USA - they are in desperate need of a civil war, or we shall soon be fighting world war 3. Yet the people are far more passive than we would expect from history. Nonviolent resistance is also down, so it’s not just military technology. It’s propaganda.
I think intentionalism is a meme - an idea that through natural selection has taken on a life of its own. And because it helps the Bourgeoisie, they, perhaps unconsciously, create conditions that favour it in their media empires.
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You know, I don’t think the “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” thing is true anymore. It made sense back in the 70s when the USA had what the capitalists call a middle class, but that group is getting smaller and smaller. Wealth inequality is higher than it’s ever been in history, according to some measures. Maybe I’m just not in touch with the youth anymore, but everyone I know treats “Sigma male grindset” as a joke and knows our generation is never buying houses.
Then again I’ve lived in a homeless shelter and surround Myself with antirealists, so what do I know about the consciousness of white suburbia?
“you” as the pronoun for hypothetical people is perfectly amenable to Me. However I know other capitalised pronoun users, and the risk of misunderstandings and the annoyance of clarification has lead Me to use “one” as the hypothetical pronoun instead in most cases, and thus I recommend it to make your life easier as well.
I confess I don’t fully understand how increased assumptiveness should lead to an increased value placed on intentions as excuses for wrongdoing.
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Ah, so it’s a decline in skepticism leading to increased trust in scammers’ stated intentions.
Well, even if we think we know another’s intentions, that doesn’t mean we value them. I think everyone has good intentions, but I don’t base My actions on those intentions. I think even if assumptiveness is prevalent, intentionalism still must be high as well to explain the society we currently live in.
There’s a lot wrong about this post.
First off, you take great pains to establish and reinforce the assertion that evil doesn’t exist, but is rather a construct created from ignorance. But then at the end you assert that ignorance is being spread by the bourgeois in an evil plot. You’re just following circular logic by this point.
Second, the assertion that all evil stems from ignorance of the harm of others is concerningly naïve. Many rapists don’t have trouble understanding what their victims experience. Quite the opposite - rape and abuse is often about taking power over others, and the knowledge of marking their victims so throroughly that they’re traumatized drives that.
Third, sociopaths exist. Sociopathy is a recognized mental condition with one of the defining characteristics being the inability to experience empathy. It doesn’t matter how long you spend teaching a sociopath about how much harm they might do, because they can’t care.
You were going in a good direction in the first half of the blog post, and I don’t necessarily disagree with your point that the ruling class wants to keep everyone else pacified. But the route you take to try to connect those two points just simply doesn’t work. The unfortunate truth of the world is that some people are just evil. I recommend you take some time to think on your philosophy more, because trying to insist that evil doesn’t exist potentially opens you up to becoming a victim in the future.
No, it doesn’t. I have battled with some vile abusers who did horrible things. I deplatformed a pedophile by releasing leaked screenshots that showed the individual online dating children. Azsula believed that Azsula’s actions were ethically okay because consent doesn’t exist. I organised a campaign to contact everyone on Azsula’s discord server and send them the article with the screenshots. I told people to leave, and not give their time or presence to abusers, and over 1/3 of them did, leading Azsula to shut down the discord server and retreat from public life. I did so in the full knowledge that Azsula’s intentions were not malicious, that Azsula didn’t mean any harm. The reason why I was able to do so is that I think ignorance of the consequences of one’s actions is itself a form of violence which must be dealt with.
And I don’t agree that sociopathy is a recognised mental condition. It doesn’t have a DSM entry. What it does have is a note in the ASPD section saying that sociopathy is sometimes used as a slang term for ASPD. ASPD is a recognised mental condition, sociopathy is not. And I have met people with ASPD who had managed to learn a little of the skill of empathy. It was hard for them to do, but not impossible.
So you deplatformed a single pedo who claimed it was from ignorance, after you destroyed their audience? I don’t buy their story.
They can understand it intellectually, but they don’t feel the same feelings. There’s a trait in autism called “masking” where you just learn to emulate what non-neurodivergent people do.
Also note that I never claimed that sociopaths are guaranteed to be terrible people or even vice versa. Just that they are an example of people that are unable to feel empathy. A couple of people with Anti-Social Personality Disorder learning to mask doesn’t change tgeir condition.
No, the pedo claimed that consent doesn’t exist before I destroyed the pedo’s audience. I got My hands on a year’s worth of private chatlogs and searched them extensively to find the most incriminating screenshots to prove beyond any doubt that Azsula was dating those kids. So I got a pretty thorough understanding of the nature of the relationship and how they justified it to themselves. They were anti-ageist political radicals, who considered age of consent laws to be ageist. The pedo has an adult body but identifies as a child internally. So that’s why it feels justified to Azsula internally. Doesn’t feel justified to Me, though.
What about if antisocial personality disorder is mostly genetic? Couldn’t some of the behaviors be defined as intentional? It’s still not that person’s fault of course. How does that fit into your theory?
ASPD comes with reduced empathy, and thus reduced ability to visualise and anticipate the harm caused by one’s actions. I think people with ASPD mean well in terms of seeking to bring joy to all those they remember are capable of experiencing it. They just forget sometimes that other people exist.
Hmm, maybe, I don’t really know. I think my uncertainty is in understanding if we have various genetically driven behaviors like so many other animals. Many of us (animals) kill and do many harmful (malicious) things to each other for survival and reproduction. We may not see it as malicious when other animals do it, because it’s “natural.” We seem to pretend that we aren’t part of nature. Some traits like ASPD do seem to greatly aid in the survival game.
Do you believe that there are many behaviors of animals that genetically predetermined?