cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7701162

I want to ask here too if that’s ok. Still not 100% sure how federation works but would like to get a bigger audience for more viewpoints.

I would love to hear the thoughts of this leftist community, not least any comrade in Russia. In the US it’s so hard to get any serious Russia news/analysis because of the propaganda here- you have red guys that love Russia & Putin to own the libs, and you have blue guys that hate Russia & Putin because it’s their favorite boogeyman. I ask because I personally don’t like Putin for his war on gayness (wake me up when we get to war of gayness) but I understand that countries in the US’s crosshairs are those that make their history under the least self-selected circumstances. I was looking at some stats when this question came to mind:

UA

RU

So material conditions have definitely improved under Putin, which is a miracle considering the fall of the USSR and the disgrace of Yeltsin, which makes me think there are probably people out there who like Putin for rational reasons, besides owning the libs. I would love to hear your thoughts either way.

  • big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml
    12·
    19 days ago

    putin and current russian government have many implications:

    -imo, inside russia, is possibly just a corrupt and reactionary politician allied with russian bourgueoisie using soviet paraphernalia as a populist tool, and doing judo with rightoid western ideas of “exterminating orcs” to hold his popularity and heavy-handed policies, like some kind of russian bukele

    -outside russia, is an abstraction used by many ends for many politic ideas:

    -for marxist types, it’s just a counterweight to the liberal european order and the US even with his reactionary policies

    -for liberal types is just a projection of the evils unleashed by their supported system, because he’s smeared by western propaganda as some kind of boogeyman, even when he didn’t do anything so evil as the typical western bougie on epstein list (as far we know)

    -for rightoid types is an unexpected ally in their “cultural war” against the libruls and the leftists (bc he hates gays and wokeness, lole!)