• All Ice In Chains@lemmy.ml
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      12 days ago

      Agree from a practical perspective but also the propaganda against real Korea is strong and learning isn’t a linear process.

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        the propaganda against real Korea is strong and learning isn’t a linear process

        This is something I constantly have to remind myself of.

        I think people need to realize that Hasan is trying to basically push liberals left. I also think that he’s unironically an effective Joe Rogan of the left.

        Many self-described “leftists” and “progressives” still hold the view that North Korea == bad. My liberal parents, for instance, are good people and I think they have the best intentions. They understand compassion and try to shape their views around that. But they think North Korea, Russia and China are inherently evil and that the USA is just being led by a bad man. Their formative years were during the cold war, so it’s hard to get them to budge.

        Anyway, my sibling and I were able to get my mom interested in Hasan during the Minneapolis strike. She said he’s entertaining and she’s going to continue watching him. I think he might be able to convince her on some views that will have a domino effect. Really hoping so.

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          12 days ago

          Hasan = #hotguysreadingtheory 😁

          In all seriousness though there’s so many valid paths to various forms of leftism and Hasan is one of the more prominent and relatable ones. It’s also simultaneously true that it’s always good to diversify the thought cabinet when possible.

          All comrades have their strengths and areas where they fall short. I myself only learned about Hasan relatively recently, but other people have similar philosophies: The Chapo Team, the Blowback team (they were great on the study of Korean history), Ryan Grim and Krystal Ball, even Robert Evans is a decent introduction to Antifascism though I’ve heard rumors he has CIA links. Never gotten around to looking them up myself because I do enjoy his storytelling ability and research on historical assholes, but maybe that’s a place where I fall short.

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      It takes time, shout out to Cowbee (I think that is the name) for the informative posts bullying liberals that made me lose a good chunk of remaining brainworms I had about AES states.

      North Korea is so propagandized that it really can be hard to “go against the grain”, it feels “wrong” because the propaganda works. I hope this made sense, I’m still learning