As many other threads have popped up about this over the last few days, I thought I’d raise a thread on kbin about this too.
From what I’ve seen, they seem like mainly inflammatory trolls who steadfastly support either Russia or the CCP while adding little of value to actual discussions elsewhere on the site.
Was a vote to federate with them in the first place even had?
What’s everyone’s thoughts?
Nonscientific strawpoll:
Do you have any examples of that kind of posting in kbin magazines? For now I don’t see a problem.
Once they start spamming kbin I’m all for defederation. Especially because there are few moderation&blocking tools available right now.
They are not federated with kbin.social, so they cannot post here. We’re invisible to them. We have to endure their posts, but they cannot see our responses.
Ok, that’s a good argument for defederation. Onesided federation makes no sense.
I rarely see their posts. I’m assuming they only ever show up in all? Cause I oddly only ever see complaints about them but never the content themselves unless they post in the complaint threads about them. Not to say I’m against defederation. I would defer to those who spend more time in all of that’s really the case of what’s occurring. It’s just hard to see whether it’s a small problem or a big problem when I only ever see one side of it. Personally, I’d rather assume folks are being rational with their complaints. Though I would rather not see the toxic communities and magazines that exist only to make fun of others, no matter how toxic the targets may be.
I read a lot of news and political discussions in various lemmy instances, so it is probably a problem of my own making.
I wouldn’t even mind the trolling and insincere arguments themselves, but having to see propaganda or misinformation while being unable to respond to it makes me feel pretty helpless (I mean, I could respond, but they would never see it). I think I might be happier without them.
I just tried to block them myself, but there seems to be some kind of bug currently that prevents domain blocking (see my other comment above).
It is not, they’re pretty fond of hijacking things. If they’d stick to relevant topics half the problem would be gone.
I actively try to prune any predominantly political shit from my feed and I’ve still seen a bunch of them with a characteristic shitposting (and not the good kind) vibe.
I don’t see why so many people insist on waiting for very specific harm to be done. Kinda seems like “C’mon everybody, leopards wont eat our faces too!”
Any thread that mentions them (that they can see, at least) immediately blows up into a pile of vapid garbage. They ruin every thread they appear in and there’s no reason to believe they’ll be any better here than they’ve been elsewhere if ever they do decide to federate with us. Also, they do seem to be adding instances so it’s not like there’s no chance they’ll target us too. Or, uh, heroically bestow upon us the boon of their inanity or whatever they think they’re doing.
“I know he smears shit on the walls but unless you have proof of him smearing shit on your walls I’m letting him in”