Found this graph online for anyone who might still be confused. I think this makes it much more clear.

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    He is center right by the standards I have put forth, so definitionally not all standards.
    Regarding your second point, I’d like to say it sounds like you haven’t had much interaction with leftists or left-wing political theory, considering your response.

    Edit: And by the most basic standard of “pro-capitalism or anti-capitalist?” He is, by his own admission a social democrat, which is an ideology that believes in reforming capitalism. So by the most foundational definition of what forms the left- and right wings in modern politics, he is right wing. However I’d say he’s centre right, rather than a hard right.

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      My grandpas were partisan, my father in Democrazia proletaria, police have pics of me at 4 in a general strike. We occupied schools and fabrics. I grew in a trozkjist family. My friend, you have no idea was it is the left.

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        Neat! I hang out with communist guerillas and a friend of mine carried out some sabotages when he was young and now he’s a union organizer. Also my dick is larger than yours. Also also you’re not my friend, fuck off with the condescension and, once again, educate yourself. Having family that has been politically involved does not mean you suddenly have an integral understanding of politics.
        Considering the many Eastern European chuds I’ve met, it’s honestly more likely the opposite is the case.

        Edit: I cannot imagine being proud of associating with trots lol. Does explain your lack of political understanding though.
        And again by definition Left-wing is anti-capitalist. That is what left vs. right is about. By definition. You being the type to have grown up among some vocal idiots does make a lot of sense for your behaviour.

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          Tou are nist probabky american. One can tell. Never occupied a school, never occupied your work of place, never been in permanent assembly or auto managed context. That is why u understood nothing of what I said. You system is failing you and damaging the world thanks to trotzijist and communist parties in europe we have 36 hours, medical leaves, vacations and worker rights. You guys go bankrupt for an ambulance. That’s why im proud of coming from a certain background. I would suggest YOU to study something. Start with Marx, cowboy.

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            Not american. A friend of mine did all the stuff you mentioned, and more too. You keep being wrong.
            You keep condescending because you can’t get it through your thick head that you are wrong and some education would do you good. One can tell you are of the type of chuddy Eastern European I talked about. Heritage does not create understanding, and you severely lack any understanding. Bernie simps for a genocidal ethnostate. Bernie believes in reforming capitalism. Bernie breaks up strikes. Even trots, as warped as their worldview is, usually have enough clarity of mind to understand that strikebreaking genocidal capitalists aren’t near any form of leftism.