CW: War, SA, Terrible Vibes, Racism

Saw someone on another thread going “er uh. We’ll get killed or dissapeared if we try to revolt”

As if the same wouldnt happen to the french partizans or anyone who tried to resist nazi germany

Mfer if the lives of these people that just got got actually mattered to any american we’d actually do something

Stop pretending, if youre like me and too fucking scared and lazy to do anything about it just fucking own up to it. Don’t make excuses and just say that the wars and infinite cruelty and death isn’t enough for us to do anything because it doesn’t affect us personally.

If youre someone who is actually doing something about it, keep it up chief. Youre a hell of a lot better than I am and as worthless as it is, you have my respect.

I mostly use this account to go haha funny metal health moment posts and also post about the redacted fake scientist man and roleplay as fucking measurehead but cmon get real. The only thing that seperates an average american citizen and an average israeli citizen is the distance between their house and Washington D.C.

IsraelGPT should br renamed LangleyGPT haha funny whatever funny haha ai generated bye bye always on DRM hahahahshahahahsjdmsjqkelldkxmslalrnfkxkamenffksiqq unlimited genocide on the first world Measurehead is taking over my bofy likr the symbiote hahaa goyslop(?) Marvel capeshit so funny cool! I love terraria so much haahabahabahsbrmdoJwmdkck

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    20 days ago

    Eagerly championing atrocity and engaging in pogroms is exactly the same as a terrified, immiserated populace not lining up to annihilate themselves throwing their bodies into the internal machinery of empire in the vain hopes that maybe enough others will do to it too that it gets gummed up a bit before the red pulp that used to be their bodies gets eagerly licked up by fascist pigs to clear the gears.

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    19 days ago

    A big part is lack of actual compassion and empathy for the victims of the US. It’s hard to fully recognize the horror when they are so sheltered from it. People protect their life when possible until more directly faced with the violence. A lot of people I see do admit they are too scared, or that they don’t know where to begin. I play Hell Let Loose and other tactical multiplayer shooters and most people don’t want to be a squad leader. I know there are at least hundreds of people willing to fight for the end of the endless imperialist massacre, many leftists know how to shoot, treat wounds, but just don’t know how to take the first step. Like look at Alex Pretti, he was a nurse, a gun owner, observing ICE and filming them, and the smallest legal resistance he put up he was murdered for. People paying attention to the violence of the US have seen executions like his for decades against those opposed to the racist power structure. It would be ignorant not to be at least a bit scared!

    In countries such as Syria where there have been civil wars recently many people had already been in war or were confronted directly with it before fighting, or in Vietnam they had been resisting colonization for decades before the US retreated. The tech panopticon and the fact most people communicate through these major platforms makes it difficult for anyone to admit they would support or organize for such a thing as well. You can become homeless after losing your job at a school because you voiced support for Palestine.

  • Lussy [he/him, des/pair]@hexbear.net
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    20 days ago

    The only thing that seperates an average american citizen and an average israeli citizen is the distance between their house and Washington D.C.

    I’m not necessarily opposed to the overall sentiment but it kind of white washes the active participation of your average Israeli in the genocide.

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      19 days ago

      I disagree.

      I’m Arab, never interacted with “amerikkkans” people in a familial setting until I met my partner. These ghouls love to talk about the terrible shit they did in Iraq / Afghanistan at the dinner table in detail.

      How do they talk about Cubans? Palestinians? Venezuelans? Anyone who isn’t european, really?

      America is the greatest evil. We only think “israel” is the worst because it is fresh in our minds, recorded, and livestreamed. The average “israeli” is the average american, just without the polite mask.

      Even the most bleeding heart liberal americans are psychopaths who do not value human life.

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        I’m Arab, never interacted with “amerikkkans” people in a familial setting until I met my partner. These ghouls love to talk about the terrible shit they did in Iraq / Afghanistan at the dinner table in detail.

        Presumably they’re aware you’re Arab, which means they must be doing this in front of you on purpose, which is even worse. jesus-christ

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      I don’t see how the average USAian being completely indifferent to the violence brought upon the world by their state supposedly makes them better than Israeli swine actively cheering on their state’s violence. A failure to act equals consent, but hey, maybe God Emperor Zohran will make Starbucks and Netflix cheaper, right?

      American exceptionalism really is one hell of a drug.

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        20 days ago

        but hey, maybe God Emperor Zohran will make >Starbucks and Netflix cheaper, right?

        American exceptionalism really is one hell of a drug.

        I don’t agree that Americans are ‘better’, not at all. I just don’t want to trivialize the actual violence committed by the average Israeli settler on Palestinians.

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          19 days ago

          I agree with you that the average “Israeli” is closer to overt violence and more likely to have personally committed it, but I also think that the fundamental (settler) mindsets/material interests of both are very similar (which if I understand your points correctly, you aren’t disagreeing with).

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            I don’t think that’s news to Lussy. If I understand correctly, his point is that the average American at the moment is a bit more separated from direct overt violence than the average “Israeli” and so he felt the statement might be unintentionally minimizing the level of violence personally committed by proportionally more “Israelis”. As he says, he’s not trying to say that Americans are “better”.

            Both are settler colonies, they (of course) were built and are sustained in similar ways.

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    19 days ago

    100% correct

    any Western prole that is ready to throw any/all Israelis into a pit needs to throw themselves in that same pit. Every nation is a battle of working class versus ruling class - the inclination to have higher standards for the nations closer to the genocide(s) is a psychological defense mechanism which aims to absolve those passively watching history unfold.

    Similar to how liberals are quick to criticize anti-imperislist nations in lieu of holding their own governments to a humanitarian standard - it is a form of liberalism to deflect the responsibility of organizing within your own western-aligned nation just because vassals of the empire (which you fund via taxes) are the direct perpetrators.

    • red_giant [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      The more you look into class reductionism, race reductionism, gender reductionism, etc

      The more you realize it’s one struggle.

      Social justice for all: that’s it.

      Throw them into the pit for their obscene denial of social justice to Gaza.

      Not all Israelis, no. Approx 80% of them according to polling I’ve seen, yes.

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    19 days ago

    I was watching a video interviewing a guy who worked in the anime industry in the '80s, '90s, 2000s and he’s a self-described capitalist and idealist liberal type. And he was saying Americans don’t want to bomb Japan because they know about Japan and they don’t care if Iraq got bombed because they don’t interact with any art from Iraq. Super idealist.

    But it got me thinking how I don’t know how true that is for any other country? Do other countries have people who are actively hostile to places they have no idea about? They’re hostile to places they have some idea about. But are they actively fascist towards random countries they can’t find on a map as well? Seems like the US is uniquely evil in that sense. The US media doesn’t even need to try that hard to justify this stuff, whereas other countries they’d at least have to do months or years of propaganda to trick people into thinking they know about a country and why it needs to be attacked.

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      One example I always go back to was when pollsters asked USAmericans “Would you support or oppose bombing Agrabah?”

      30% of Republicans and 19% of Democrats said they’d support it.

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      I dunno, I think he was on to something there. There’s a reason why Hollywood gets pushed globally and I don’t think it’s just to make money. The amount of people idealising America and it’s ideals are staggering and a lot of that is because of cultural stuff like Friends and similar sitcoms. I am being serious.