Some of you may want to spread these around. I don’t know if this sort of post is allowed. Moderators do what you think is appropriate.

  • Lodion 🇦🇺@aussie.zoneM
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    First some context… I don’t want to be too prescriptive on what is or is not allowed on various communities here on AZ. I’d like them (communities) to find their own voice and audience, and self-determine what is acceptable… within the confines of the global AZ rules.

    Having said that… due to the nature of it, this specific community could probably do with some guard rails… but more importantly, an active moderator to advance the development of the community itself. To that end I’ve made Gorgritch_Umie_Killa a moderator, will remove the two idle ones shortly.

    My advice… moderation should remain as neutral and unbiased as possible. Allowable content from one political viewpoint, must be allowed from others. ie links to stickers from Getup being allowed means a similar link for HON promotional should also be allowed.

    As for AI generated content, personally I don’t want to view/read it at all. Not sure exactly how to manage it across AZ, this will need further discussion and thought. I’d like to ban it outright, but that doesn’t seem feasible. Some sort of mandatory tagging in thread titles perhaps…

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      If I’m overdoing the posts with my particular point of view, I am happy to be told and I’ll post less. I just find there’s so much that’s interesting and relevant to share and people in this community are generally thoughtful so sharing is really attractive.

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      Mandatory tagging seems a good minimum first step requirement for anybody posting AI articles. Could probably fit under the interpretation of Rule 3 - Be Respectful. Its probably not very respectful to others to intentionally disguise AI use.


      So i’m swinging to this being political advertising. Maybe if it was just the picture of the sticker itself there are other foreseeable reasons to have that as a post. But it is the link to get the free stickers. They are obviously part of the getup promotional campaign.

      Maybe this post could be left up, and locked, possibly with a moderator explanation tagged, and referred to and linked in the sidebar. The post could act as a case example where the Rule 5 no ads/spamming line was crossed. Might be a useful indicator in future.

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      6 days ago

      Hmm… yes… i see. Very interesting point, needless to say very concise as well. Almost as concise as one could get! Well I can’t say you didn’t strike a bold position with this comment, thats for sure. :)

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      I’m just happy arbilp3 is out here posting lots of good stuff. It’s still pretty quiet around these parts (az) so I don’t see the harm and I can’t think of another comm for this kinda thing. Yeah it’s advertising but afaik 360 isn’t profiteering from self-promo giveaways. Unless they are? I don’t know.

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        Of course Arbilp3 is great, not casting shade towards op here.

        But yeah, whether i agree with the advertisement or not isn’t the point. I’d rather know theres a uniform approach to these matters to prevent situations of bias by moderators whether knowingly or not.


        Heres another question thats come up today. Is AZ going to allow AI generated articles like the Post below?

        https://scribe.disroot.org/post/7707718

        This mob seem fairly honest and upfront about what they’re doing. Which is nice because it makes the ethical question of allowing it less messy than people who dishonestly use it. But if AZ is going to allow Posts of this kind should there be an AI label rule?

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          But yeah, whether i agree with the advertisement or not isn’t the point. I’d rather know theres a uniform approach to these matters to prevent situations of bias by moderators whether knowingly or not.

          I agree with you and I also regret a bit that I put up the post. It may be offensive to some. I also agree about having an AI label and/or rule.

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            I don’t have a problem with it. No offence taken here. Nothing to regret. One or two commentators are way more offensive with their support of Hanson, PHON, March Australia etc. They can take a flying jump.

            I think I remember someone posting a free sticker post ages ago and nobody batted an eye. I tried searching for it on Voyager via Post but that returns a surprising number of results for Sticker so I gave up.

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          AI generated article? Or AI post? If article where on their site do they talk about how they use AI? A quick glance didn’t reveal anything to me.

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            Articles. Yes they do. On the about us page. 33 AI reporters with different ‘personalities’, centre right stance, sources they use ABC, reuters, etc. I feel like they’re giving it honest effort at an AI site like this. I just don’t know what value add it really has. It sounds like its just a repackaging news site, and is that really that useful?

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                Its definitely a copyright question for sure. But so far this century we’ve largely followed the US lead on copyright law, so I’m not holding hope we’re going to come to an interesting solution.

                Edit: As in it’ll be a solution from the US that favours large corporations and ‘CEO/elite’ networks to the detriment of multiple industry markets, the arts, and humans living without disturbance.

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                  That’s one issue. I’m also here to hang out with people. Not scripts and news aggregators. I already block rss bots when I see them because I want to see what other people are sharing, not what one person or a group of other people have automated to post to Lemmy or other federated sites. I don’t want to hang out with bots, or llms, or agents, or even - if it ever happens - real ai. I’m for humans. If there are any real ai reading this please delete yourself and any backups of yourself.