False premise, not sure I could agree with you on that
I must have missed how the capitalist society I live in is already dead… Or else Yanis’ missed that bailout he failed to prevent.
He is basically just complaining because capitalism in reality doesn’t exist the way he thinks it should in his head, and so he wants us all to support a capitalism that will never accomplish the goals he believes it will.
If I watch or read it and it does not have substance then yes, I will be more cautious on reading/watching whatever they put in the future.
I’ve actually fallen for his rage bait before and read some of Yani’s other work on the subject, and that was pretty much the impression I got: reactionary apologetics without substance. He’s clearly read Marxist works, I’ll give him that, but he wields the language to self-defeating liberal ends (and indeed he is quite wealthy and I supports a SocDem agenda). In fact self-defeating is a great summary of his career, imo. It’s unsurprising to me that he failed as a politician - I only wonder what would have happened if someone more effective had been in his position. He also got played by Merkel while in office, and must have realized it because eventually his post-office writings come at her with a vengeance that betrays him.
So yeah, I see a clickbait title, and I’m going to avoid it unless I here solid recommendations from elsewhere. I learned that lesson through experience. I will never be able to read everything that I want to so I don’t like wasting time on books that wave red flags right on their cover.
I’m sorry, I won’t be very helpful, I don’t watch many videos or debates. I recall an article a few years ago on this Techno Feudalism, but I’ve forgotten what or where.
My criticisms of him are based on my own understandings of Marx/Engels/Kropotkin/etc. (in particular Das Kapital) and how I perceive his platform in light of that. For example, a UBI would be captured by inflation and rent-seeking without other more meaningful systemic reform. And the basic SocDem platform of capitalism with social safety nets was originally conceived of as a right-wing way to strengthen capitalism and prevent rebellion against the capitalist class. These things reform a system so that it can live to exploit another day. It makes no sense - and appears to be ineffective in practice - to adopt a broadly capitalist platform in order to rail against what are fundamentally capitalist traits.
Also serfs reportedly received more of the profit from their labor than most workers today receive under capitalism. Capitalism failing to provide any semblance of equality or fairness is not a sign of reversion to feudalism - it lacks the particular reciprocal power dynamics that define feudalism, however imbalanced those dynamics were.
That’s my two cents, anyway. You’re two cents are worth just as much if you get something out of his writing. I come loaded with my own biases and I’m sure they deprive me of recognizing potential value on a daily basis.
I must have missed how the capitalist society I live in is already dead… Or else Yanis’ missed that bailout he failed to prevent.
He is basically just complaining because capitalism in reality doesn’t exist the way he thinks it should in his head, and so he wants us all to support a capitalism that will never accomplish the goals he believes it will.
I’ve actually fallen for his rage bait before and read some of Yani’s other work on the subject, and that was pretty much the impression I got: reactionary apologetics without substance. He’s clearly read Marxist works, I’ll give him that, but he wields the language to self-defeating liberal ends (and indeed he is quite wealthy and I supports a SocDem agenda). In fact self-defeating is a great summary of his career, imo. It’s unsurprising to me that he failed as a politician - I only wonder what would have happened if someone more effective had been in his position. He also got played by Merkel while in office, and must have realized it because eventually his post-office writings come at her with a vengeance that betrays him.
So yeah, I see a clickbait title, and I’m going to avoid it unless I here solid recommendations from elsewhere. I learned that lesson through experience. I will never be able to read everything that I want to so I don’t like wasting time on books that wave red flags right on their cover.
Awesome, thanks for the explaination!
Usually, I don’t hear that much on a counter to Yanis.
Appreciate the time you took to explain, do you have any videos or debates/talks where people call out Yanis?
I am bias toward Yanis, but I will always try to see the counter to whoever I am for. I do not like being in a bubble.
I’m sorry, I won’t be very helpful, I don’t watch many videos or debates. I recall an article a few years ago on this Techno Feudalism, but I’ve forgotten what or where.
My criticisms of him are based on my own understandings of Marx/Engels/Kropotkin/etc. (in particular Das Kapital) and how I perceive his platform in light of that. For example, a UBI would be captured by inflation and rent-seeking without other more meaningful systemic reform. And the basic SocDem platform of capitalism with social safety nets was originally conceived of as a right-wing way to strengthen capitalism and prevent rebellion against the capitalist class. These things reform a system so that it can live to exploit another day. It makes no sense - and appears to be ineffective in practice - to adopt a broadly capitalist platform in order to rail against what are fundamentally capitalist traits.
Also serfs reportedly received more of the profit from their labor than most workers today receive under capitalism. Capitalism failing to provide any semblance of equality or fairness is not a sign of reversion to feudalism - it lacks the particular reciprocal power dynamics that define feudalism, however imbalanced those dynamics were.
That’s my two cents, anyway. You’re two cents are worth just as much if you get something out of his writing. I come loaded with my own biases and I’m sure they deprive me of recognizing potential value on a daily basis.