• TrekHuis@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    57
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    The US military should just take it over. Twitter (x) hiding reports in search results, then Starlink that is turned off all the time. Elon just plays to the highest bidder, and has no morals.

    • Jessvj93@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Honestly what needs to happen. He’s a coward and cost who knows how many lives giving Russia what it wants.

    • Mudkipology@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      1 year ago

      That just sounds like a great way to have the US Government in charge of when the internet gets shut down instead of Musk. He’s a garbage human being but this level of power should not be centralized.

      • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        24
        ·
        1 year ago

        It already is centralized if one dumbass can turn it off 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      15
      ·
      1 year ago

      ?

      He’s a dbag of the highest order and I hope he cries himself to sleep every night… But no, the US military should NOT be seizing private businesses. I can’t believe I even had to say that lol

          • Wet Noodle@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            15
            ·
            1 year ago

            Elon is actively sabotaging the military of an American ally, he can go fuck himself I hope they take all of SpaceX from his ass

            • GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              I didn’t know that aerospace could be nationalized so easily. If that’s the case I’m for it. But otherwise the idea that we take private enterprise by force is unAmerican and unacceptable to me, no matter how repugnant he is (and he’s a fucking repugnant scrotelick)

          • dragontamer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            This is at minimum, a Logan Act violation if you want to get technical about it.

            Elon Musk has fucked US Diplomats over, by fucking our ally Ukraine.

            We know that someone as rich and popular as Elon is kinda-sorta untouchable. But I’d like to see something done in an ideal world.

            • GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              0 of the 2 people charged in like 200 years have been convicted under the Logan Act. You might as well say we should nab him for jaywalking.

      • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        There is plenty of precedent for nationalizing companies, and for that matter, it doesn’t have to be the military one would give it to anyway.

        • GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Has the precedent ever been dissatisfaction with the private ownership? Or did we we actually require federalizing the output of those companies for national security reasons?

          Genuinely curious because apparently I’m the only one who thinks nationalizing Starlink is an extreme response.

          • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Admittedly, most examples I can think of for nationalizing things withing the US have been either when a vital industry (usually railroads) shuts down due to bankruptcy or labor disputes, or companies partly owned by foreign powers that the US ends up at war with, which I suppose could both be called national security reasons. That being said, while the Ukraine war doesnt directly threaten the security of the US, beyond I suppose the small risk of it somehow dragging the US in directly, its pretty clear that the country is not really neutral in all this either, so at the very least Musk’s actions here work directly against US foreign policy goals. Admittedly I do agree that nationalizing starlink is a bit extreme, Im not sure that the US government is necessarily a great choice to run a global internet service, especially one that is somewhat different to other companies of the same type (it operates vastly more satellites to my knowledge than other similar operations), but I do feel that threatening to nationalize SpaceX might be a decent way to get Elon to play ball, so to speak.

      • dragontamer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        US Government nationalized AIG and GM during the 2008 financial crisis.

        We don’t even need to be at war to take a company over. We just need the political will to do so.


        We shouldn’t nationalize Starlink because its a money losing dumbass idea though. Yeah it helps the Ukrainians, but that’s the only valid use, and 4000+ satellites for basically only war seems like a bad idea. Cell phone 5G service will be cheaper in peacetime, and wartime has other communication platforms.

        • Muehe@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yeah it helps the Ukrainians, but that’s the only valid use, and 4000+ satellites for basically only war seems like a bad idea. Cell phone 5G service will be cheaper in peacetime, and wartime has other communication platforms.

          Uhh sorry but this line of thought seems pretty incoherent. Its use case clearly goes beyond just war (e.g. coverage of rural and wild areas where a land line or 5G will not be economical), since StarLink has gone online pretty much every global super power has started or announced building their own constellations, and during wartime you want to have as much redundancy in your systems as you can get, especially so in your lines of communication. And Ukraine is using it right now, during wartime. I can’t follow this logic at all.

      • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Bro he’s literally helping Russia, he’s a traitor to the US. Seize all his assets.