The crazy thing is, primaries exist, and an engaged coalition within a given political party can make an outsized impact in them, and then the party just is whatever those primary voters determine it is. That’s how we got Trump’s Republicans in the first place, and that’s how we got Mayor Mamdani, over the objections of the previous establishment in both cases.
The only obstacle is if the coalition is so disorganized, or their views are so niche, that they can’t even win a primary with a fraction of a fraction of the turnout for a general election, and if that’s the case, then… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The DNC has argued in court that it has no obligation to provide a fair elections in the primaries. That’s also just not really how parties work in general. Parties can purge whoever they feel like.
If we’re supposed to just rely on primaries and treat them as free and fair elections, then what exactly would be the issue with a one-party state? If you don’t like the way the one party is running things, just join them and start an internal movement to change things. It’s the exact same logic.
Comments like this just serve to absolve the people who do show up to primaries for being pieces of shit. And believe me, as someone who has phone banked plenty, they are fully aware they’re fighting leftists and progressives. 🤷♂️
You tell us we’re disorganized or niche fine. That means another group is organized and therefore has the power. That means they are responsible for outcomes. They are responsible for Joe Biden blocking a rail strike, going around congress twice to ship weapons to Israel in order to be used in a genocide, failing to bring Trump to justice and ultimately losing the general election in 2024 due to hanging on too long so a proper primary couldn’t be run.
If you aren’t willing to acknowledge that side of the conversation then you’re just another liberal trying to absolve yourself of the failures you and your organized group have caused. If you aren’t willing to take responsibility then stop showing up in the primaries and get the fuck out of the way. 🤷♂️
The crazy thing is, primaries exist, and an engaged coalition within a given political party can make an outsized impact in them, and then the party just is whatever those primary voters determine it is. That’s how we got Trump’s Republicans in the first place, and that’s how we got Mayor Mamdani, over the objections of the previous establishment in both cases.
The only obstacle is if the coalition is so disorganized, or their views are so niche, that they can’t even win a primary with a fraction of a fraction of the turnout for a general election, and if that’s the case, then… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The DNC has argued in court that it has no obligation to provide a fair elections in the primaries. That’s also just not really how parties work in general. Parties can purge whoever they feel like.
If we’re supposed to just rely on primaries and treat them as free and fair elections, then what exactly would be the issue with a one-party state? If you don’t like the way the one party is running things, just join them and start an internal movement to change things. It’s the exact same logic.
Comments like this just serve to absolve the people who do show up to primaries for being pieces of shit. And believe me, as someone who has phone banked plenty, they are fully aware they’re fighting leftists and progressives. 🤷♂️
You tell us we’re disorganized or niche fine. That means another group is organized and therefore has the power. That means they are responsible for outcomes. They are responsible for Joe Biden blocking a rail strike, going around congress twice to ship weapons to Israel in order to be used in a genocide, failing to bring Trump to justice and ultimately losing the general election in 2024 due to hanging on too long so a proper primary couldn’t be run.
If you aren’t willing to acknowledge that side of the conversation then you’re just another liberal trying to absolve yourself of the failures you and your organized group have caused. If you aren’t willing to take responsibility then stop showing up in the primaries and get the fuck out of the way. 🤷♂️