• Aniki@feddit.org
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    6 days ago

    the actual mistake of politics is that we have given in to vibes-based voting instead of actually looking at policy proposals and commenting on those.

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    They vote to fund ICE, Biden did nothing to release the Epstein files or go after obvious sedition in the name of bipartisanship. His SAVE act was desperately needed after he signed into law the inability to discharge overwhelming amounts of student debt in bankruptcy. He has personally voted to increase police funding. Obama started putting kids in cages and continued the funding of ICE. There’s more but that’s what’s just on the surface of what I remember right now.

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    Fuck the DNC. The day I watched their goons push & shove my friends & allies down the stairs of their DC HQ for peacefully protesting was the day I knew they really were the monsters they claimed to be trying to protect us from

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    A key part of protest voting is taking ownership of the election result. After the dems loose the election, regardless of whether your protest movement actually was causal for the loss, you need to claim that you are responsible, and if the dems don’t meet your demands, they’ll never win an election again.

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        Well, I assume that a democratic party that meets the demands of an actual socialist/communist will be unrecognizable from the pile of pathetic cowards we have today, having only the name in common.

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      Got to be careful with those because a lot of them are transitioning away from AIPAC specifically to AIPAC adjacent. Still taking that Zionist money, but under a different name.

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      We also have to get involved. Our congressman, who takes hundreds of thousands from AIPAC and lives outside the area he represents, ran unopposed because I didn’t find out he didn’t have a challenger until it was too late to file. Local Dems should have been ready to pounce on him but nada. Had I been more involved, might have been able to primary him. At least make him go on the record about where he lives and the Israel money.

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    Youre right i guess we should all just start voting for more republicans. Maybe well get jd vance mext. Maybe hegseth wants to take a shot. Since theyre all the same anyways. Maybe patel or noeme then she can shoot dogs all day and itll be totally fine. Or better yet just stop voting all together. Who needs all that noise. Just let them do whatever amd we can go back to being serfs

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      Youre right i guess we should all just start voting for more republicans.

      Things centrists say when progressives win primaries.

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      These type of people would never be in politics if liberals held their own politicians accountable. Every time they turn a blind eye to something their political leaders do it allows them to get worse and worse because they know there are no consequences.

    • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Realize that this post is not made by a hexbear user, not on a hexbear comm, and being enjoyed by users that also aren’t on hexbear. What you have here is actually nothing but evidence that these views are held by more than just hexbear users. Yet with your way of thinking, you somehow manage to recast evidence against your belief that “the only kind of people who like this stuff are hexbear users and all that comes along with that” as evidence for that same belief.

      It would be like if I thought that vaccines are a hoax to make money, and when my doctor best friend says “actually vaccines are legitimately good for you bro” my reaction isn’t “oh this is evidence against me” but I just say “ahhh big pharma mentality is leaking, they must have got to him!”

      It’s a subtle way of trapping yourself into an unfalsifiable belief system. Be careful!

      • In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

        If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

        M. Parenti in Blackshirts and reds

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      Corsicanguppy, The dems started a genocide with Israel and sent troops and bombs and pallets of taxpayer cash over to help. Whatever you think about both sideesism, Theres got to be a line which is “too far”. And if mass murder of innocents, starvation of a population, bombing westerners including Americans so Israel can steal land isnt that line, and industrial scale pedophilia and murder with Epstein isnt that line, then I wonder if you actually have any lines at all. Dems need to stand for something and they dont. Why not?

      I think its partially because they have massive support without having to do anything. And here you are demanding that support be given, in exchange for… nothing at all given back to us.

      I think “nothing will fundamentally change” is good enough for you because you’ve got yours.