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It’s not worth the danger of the chase for a traffic violation, and not worth the danger of the chase for the drugs.

  • iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    If they have that weight then good… wreck em. Fuck drug dealers like trashy mainstream companies.

    Every person I’ve known that has weight like that has killed people.

    I hate how naive people give them a green light as if they “needed to sell drugs because America is too hard to live in.” These people still rape lives well after they have enough money to get by without selling. They are no better than rich mainstream politicians and businessmen.

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        1 year ago

        Doesn’t mean the source their supporting doesn’t traffik humans and other drugs, as well murder to protect their business. It’s not like this was a kid selling a couple Oz from some homegrown weed stash. If they have that much MDMA it’s organized crime. People are going to want to protect that organization to save their livelihoods usually at any cost. It really sucks seeing that stuff in life… I hope I never find myself around it again. People can be heartless, I’ve seen innocent people put in prison because they got used by the people above them. It’s fucked. The street game is no less bullshit than mainstream rich business people when you get to the point where you’re actually making money. If anything can describe authentic crime is war/heartlessness. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone with innocents.

        Just legalize drugs already.

        • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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          I’ll admit I’m not sure I’m for legalization but I do support de criminalization.

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          1 year ago

          Go read about what mdma is and the history of ecstasy.

          MDMA is a different drug entirely from methamphetamin. It contains some of the same molecular compounds but that does not mean it’s the same drug.

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            1 year ago

            And? That’s such an odd response.

            What do you the MA stands for in mdma?

            3,4-Methyl​enedioxy​methamphetamine is the proper name.

            • Wav_function@lemmy.world
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              That’s not how chemistry nomenclature works.

              Methyl and methylene groups are present in tons of molecules, they don’t make those molecules methamphetamines. That’s like saying people who use olive oil are eating motor oil because they both have the word oil in the name.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_group#:~:text=In organic chemistry%2C a methyl,stable group in most molecules.

              Please do not spout nonsense about things you don’t understand.

              MDMA has similarities to amphetamine but it’s mechanism of action is different enough that is has a wildly different safety profile and patterns of use/addiction potential. Either drug containing a methyl group is not what makes them dangerous, that word only describes a part of their structure.

              • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                I understand it just fine.

                You appear to think it’s not an amphetamine which isn’t true.

                And your weird oil explanation. lol. Clown world.

              • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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                Rule 1 reminder: Real-life decorum is expected. Please don’t say things only a child or a jackass would say in person.

              • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                It’s classified as a methamphetamine.

                I get you want to look clever but know your drugs.

                I love your argument. Since you don’t understand drugs. I’m the idiot because you didn’t even realize mdma is methamphetamine even though it’s in the name. lol.

                Clown.

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      1 year ago

      Did the police know what volume of drugs were in the car when they decided to put the lives of everyone else on the road in danger because of a traffic violation?

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        The police didn’t cause the chase. They participated in it, of course but I don’t think it’s reasonable to hold them responsible for the chase happening in the first place. The drug dealer(s?) could have stayed put.

        eta: I am by no means a police apologist or a “back the blue” type, either. There is plenty wrong with how police do the job they have but this isn’t that

        • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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          What? Of course the police caused the chase. The guy drove off, yes, but if the police don’t chase him there’s no chase.

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            Your bias shows with every comment. There is a law. A law is broken. An officer witnesses the law being broken and initiates a stop. (Pivotal or action moment occurs!!) the person who is engaged in a stop does not adhere to the law (for a second time!!) when the police signal them to stop. Then the police (dependent on chase policy) begin a chase and/or initiate a PIT.

            If we step-by-step this… it’s the law breaker… who is wrong in THIS* SPECIFIC CASE.

            now, if you want to question what information the media has received, and if it came from the police directly… then I may be there with you, since ‘police stated’ is and has been heavily debated in the past.

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              There’s a possible worldview where… both wrong things are wrong. Endangering others is what the drug dealer is doing (I don’t really believe ecstacy is worth this event but I digress.)… endangering others is what the cops also actively did. Neither is right. Cops have the ability to back off and find the person pretty efficiently when they have plates on their car. Also this is ecstacy not fentanyl or meth.

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                All we know is that it was initiated on a moving or traffic violation. The drugs were found afterwards, so don’t factor into the chase decision. We do not have information to support that lives were put at risk.

                • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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                  There are no safe police chases, and no safe PIT-maneuvers to cause a safe crash. People and property are at peril.

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                    Everything I have stated up until this very comment has argued that you have failed to prove what you just said, by using this specific case as your example. Your statement is an opinion, and a false one at that because you have continued to fail to prove your argument.

                    Edit: this case disproves your argument on its merits alone. This case proves that you are wrong.