Ok, I like where you are coming from. I really do. But, police enforce laws. That’s their job. The problem here isn’t the police in that they are actively enforcing laws. The problem you have is The War on Drugs and secondly ‘chase policy’.
Your argument for ‘chase policy’ is secondary damage, harm and loss of life. This case. This chase. Is a perfect execution of ‘chase policy’. There isn’t any abuse, harm, damage, or loss of life that you’re lamenting or arguing against. And therefor it doesn’t fit your argument on the merits. It supports the argument of the Police instead, so it’s a negative against your argument.
The ‘drug’ issue is one of politics, and not police, since they’re just doing their jobs. How about we, myself included with you, actively support politicians who want to decriminalize and revoke the war on drugs? Instead of screaming ‘police bad’ for a case that isn’t worth our wasted breath?
Just because this particular chase didn’t go bad doesn’t make it a good thing or an argument for police chases. This both an exception to the rule and the best case scenario. Most chases don’t end like this. Most chases end with at least one person dead, usually the suspect. Remember, innocent until proven guilty. It’s not a good thing for cops to kill suspects that run.
Police selectively enforce laws all the time. Drug policy needs to change, but police don’t need to enforce it the way they do. Enforcement in the war on drugs is highly discriminatory, so it takes a joint effort between police not enforcing and politicians changing these laws for the change to happen.
You’re missing the point, and I’ve mentioned this before, the original post doesn’t say anything about how chasing in general is bad. It just lists this chase as an example of ‘bad cop’. But, this example by itself is anything but ‘bad cop’ unless your opinion is ‘any chase is bad, mmm’kay’ regardless of whether this one proves the opposite.
You and others keep bringing up other instances of extreme case scenarios, but none of that matters in this instance. If we want to discuss the merits of ‘chases are bad in general’ then this post needs to say that, and then should provide evidence supporting that instead of a case that does the entire opposite.
And, let me restate this for everyone’s benefit. I am only arguing that this example doesn’t support what the OP is trying to say. I am not arguing for or against anything else as it pertains to law enforcement and/or their practices.
Edit: earlier had this example in mind that I wanted to use to convey what I was getting at, and I just remembered it.
If you were browsing the NSFW subs and you saw an image of ‘generic naked girl standing upright with her tits out’ in the facedownassup, or however it’s spelled, sub… that image would still have tons of upvotes, because ‘NSFW must upvote bc tits’. But, it wouldn’t fit the spirit or the theme of the sub, and therefor would be out of place. Just as out of place as this post is in the ‘bad cop’ sub. It’s not a good example, sure you may have an opinion that ‘all chases are bad’ but this example is the ‘generic girl standing up showing her tits’ in a niche sub about BDSM, feet, assupfacedown, or whatever. Sure, tits, but not what the sub is for.
That’s an interesting opinion you have there. What in this case has lead you to believe that an argument of ‘lack of knowledge of laws to enforce’ is pertinent to the discussion?*
You just showed your bias again by stating lives were risked. Not once in the article was there any mention of it. Stop attributing your bias to the argument and defining it as fact.
Ok, I like where you are coming from. I really do. But, police enforce laws. That’s their job. The problem here isn’t the police in that they are actively enforcing laws. The problem you have is The War on Drugs and secondly ‘chase policy’.
Your argument for ‘chase policy’ is secondary damage, harm and loss of life. This case. This chase. Is a perfect execution of ‘chase policy’. There isn’t any abuse, harm, damage, or loss of life that you’re lamenting or arguing against. And therefor it doesn’t fit your argument on the merits. It supports the argument of the Police instead, so it’s a negative against your argument.
The ‘drug’ issue is one of politics, and not police, since they’re just doing their jobs. How about we, myself included with you, actively support politicians who want to decriminalize and revoke the war on drugs? Instead of screaming ‘police bad’ for a case that isn’t worth our wasted breath?
Just because this particular chase didn’t go bad doesn’t make it a good thing or an argument for police chases. This both an exception to the rule and the best case scenario. Most chases don’t end like this. Most chases end with at least one person dead, usually the suspect. Remember, innocent until proven guilty. It’s not a good thing for cops to kill suspects that run.
Police selectively enforce laws all the time. Drug policy needs to change, but police don’t need to enforce it the way they do. Enforcement in the war on drugs is highly discriminatory, so it takes a joint effort between police not enforcing and politicians changing these laws for the change to happen.
You’re missing the point, and I’ve mentioned this before, the original post doesn’t say anything about how chasing in general is bad. It just lists this chase as an example of ‘bad cop’. But, this example by itself is anything but ‘bad cop’ unless your opinion is ‘any chase is bad, mmm’kay’ regardless of whether this one proves the opposite.
You and others keep bringing up other instances of extreme case scenarios, but none of that matters in this instance. If we want to discuss the merits of ‘chases are bad in general’ then this post needs to say that, and then should provide evidence supporting that instead of a case that does the entire opposite.
And, let me restate this for everyone’s benefit. I am only arguing that this example doesn’t support what the OP is trying to say. I am not arguing for or against anything else as it pertains to law enforcement and/or their practices.
Edit: earlier had this example in mind that I wanted to use to convey what I was getting at, and I just remembered it.
If you were browsing the NSFW subs and you saw an image of ‘generic naked girl standing upright with her tits out’ in the facedownassup, or however it’s spelled, sub… that image would still have tons of upvotes, because ‘NSFW must upvote bc tits’. But, it wouldn’t fit the spirit or the theme of the sub, and therefor would be out of place. Just as out of place as this post is in the ‘bad cop’ sub. It’s not a good example, sure you may have an opinion that ‘all chases are bad’ but this example is the ‘generic girl standing up showing her tits’ in a niche sub about BDSM, feet, assupfacedown, or whatever. Sure, tits, but not what the sub is for.
The police are not required to know the laws in the US
That’s an interesting opinion you have there. What in this case has lead you to believe that an argument of ‘lack of knowledge of laws to enforce’ is pertinent to the discussion?*
Their job is not to enforce laws
You don’t understand this issue. You’re wasting your breath, talking about something you obviously don’t know about about.
The facts that they gave chase, risking the lives of innocent bystanders, for any traffic violation is a serious problem. Period.
You just showed your bias again by stating lives were risked. Not once in the article was there any mention of it. Stop attributing your bias to the argument and defining it as fact.