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It’s not worth the danger of the chase for a traffic violation, and not worth the danger of the chase for the drugs.

  • NJSpradlin@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    From what we can tell;

    The officers witnessed either a moving or traffic violation.

    They initiated a stop.

    The party involved refused to stop.

    They followed either policy, experience, training, or knowledge to initiate a chase then a PIT

    PIT led to apprehension AND finding a significant ‘distribution level’ amount of a controlled substance.

    Those are facts.

    You don’t have anywhere that you can argue ‘people in danger’ because the article doesn’t* say ‘people were put on danger’. You can’t argue about ‘people’s lives being in danger’ because you DO NOT KNOW if any were. Or if this department even has a history of endangering people’s lives in chases.

    What you can, and have done, I’d say that your opinion is that ‘chases are bad’ because ‘people’s lives can be in danger’ without the context of the situation because you don’t have it. Regardless of your aside argument in parenthesis that I’ve even mentioned that I have opinions for, as well, but aren’t supported by current law.

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        1 year ago

        Yes. And from the article you, as the OP to this entire discussion, have linked. This one at least, based on the facts presented in your chosen article, has proven to provide the police with the argument and justification for police chases being both safe and beneficial to enforcing the law.

        And that is my entire argument. You. Chose. The. Wrong. Article. to make a “Police Bad” argument.

        • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOPM
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          1 year ago

          This chase ended with a PIT-maneuver and a crash, which seems the opposite of ‘safe’.

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            1 year ago

            Did you look at the pictures or did you put together your argument for ‘opposite of ‘safe’’ from your own predisposed opinion? Let me say it again for you, the article and the pictures DO NOT SAY UNSAFE OR RISK TO LIVES OF BYSTANDERS in any capacity.

            Anything you attribute to that is of your own making and therefor biased and in no capacity fact based.

            Please stop. We’ve already addressed every argument you have as OP for this specific case.

            What you should do is abandon this case and instead start a new post that has evidence and fact based reporting about your broader concern, which you’ve defined as ‘all chases are bad because they put undue risk on everyone and property’. Or however you wanted to word it… and then start your righteous debate there.

            Edit: Hell, in that case… I might learn something from you and even agree with you if you provided evidence based reasoning behind your argument. But, this horse is dead and you aren’t going to convince me that this case does anything other than support the police’s argument for increased chase policies.