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It’s not worth the danger of the chase for a traffic violation, and not worth the danger of the chase for the drugs.

    • NJSpradlin@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      That’s the point, they didn’t need to know. They didn’t need to know if there were drugs, distribution level or not, to initiate this specific stop. They provided evidence that supported that they witnessed a traffic or moving violation that warranted a stop, they initiated a stop, and then the individual refused. So they initiated a chase and PIT, which without evidence to dispute we can assume fits their chase and PIT policy.

      They got lucky in finding the drugs. But, police ‘training, experience and knowledge’ means that in the thousands of stops they do… they begin to see patterns that may result ‘bigger’* fish to catch. Aside from my and your opinion in what’s called a ‘hunch’, if the officer is obeying SOP and the law and can articulate (clearly state why he is doing a thing) why he’s chasing and PITing and how it fits his SOP, then power to him. COP does not equal BAD when they can do that.

      That’s my problem with this post. The OP failed to prove COP BAD.

      • Halosheep@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Man defending yourself this hard in this sort of circle jerk community is never going to end well. No one here is going to take a nuanced look at the situation and any reasonable argument is falling on deaf ears.

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        1 year ago

        without evidence to dispute we can assume fits their chase and PIT policy

        No, it is fairly safe to assume that police don’t follow their own policies by paying attention to how many times they don’t bother.

            • NJSpradlin@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              That’s such an odd statement coming from someone who couldn’t properly articulate their argument for why a case that doesn’t support ‘cops bad’ on the merits provided by OP’s link… is so adamantly ‘cops bad’ in their argument.

              Please stop devolving to “I dislike this guy’s arguments because it doesn’t fit my narrative, so I must demonize him by belittling him so that I feel better about myself” and admit… with all the facts of this very specific situation given… that it just doesn’t fit this sub. It’s not a good case of ‘cops bad’.

                • NJSpradlin@lemmy.world
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                  1 year ago

                  Gods, man. Take a minute to open your eyes here and realize that not everyone who has a different opinion of you is your fucking enemy. Life isn’t Black and White. It’s shades of fucking* grey. Being able to articulate your position and argument is worth significantly more than saying ‘boot licker’ to someone who can actually articulate their argument.

                  Your ability to argue is leaps and bounds below mine. And that’s a fucking fact. But, we aren’t enemies here. Necessarily. Police aren’t always right, and I’m not a supporter of The War on Drugs. I’d fucking eat pot gummies and do X with the wife if they weren’t illegal. And if I could protest police brutality and against government overreach and for individual rights, I fucking would. Hell, while i was stuck doing my job during riots, I actively supported my wife marching FOR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS and against the government.

                  Just admit it, man. You’re stuck on a narrative that blindly divides you from people who would actively help you if you’d only listen.

                  • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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                    1 year ago

                    Bootlicker always cracks me up. They think it makes them sound tough but it does the opposite.

                    The world is grey. Everyone has become so binary is maddening.

                    I have no issue with most cops but I really despise bad cops.

                    I fully support police reform as with modern technology we can do things differently now. We need to rethink how we police.

                    But back to this case, I don’t see an issue.