This time their stupid driving did not cause much damage. Other times that manuever has caused loss of life for those involved and innocent bystanders. Police should not be using pit manuevers at all. They are dangerous even for trained professionals in a controlled environment.
My entire point is that the regardless of your opinion about PITs, this very specific situation does not reflect negatively on police, as it sounds like a textbook example of what the police are going for, and therefor is out of place in this sub.
Instead, how about we have a different post that describes what you guys are now trying to attribute to this one: “PITs are bad, mmm’kay”. And in that post how about we describe and debate the merits with links that support that narrative. Because this one sorely missed the mark.
Ok, so what you’re saying (outside of attributing ‘risks lives’ and to ‘many people around’ which isn’t clearly stated in this case… which is what I’m trying to say…) is that you have a fundamental issue with PITs in general, regardless of whether this one was or could have been low threat and low risk, because you don’t have any facts to state otherwise. What we do know is that didn’t cause the harm to anyone that you’re arguing.
So, re-read my argument and go start a new post about ‘PITs bad’ and stop trying to shoehorn in a best case scenario for police as an argument for ‘bad cop’. It looks terrible and is a dumb argument to try to make when* all you have is this terrible evidence to support your claim.
Except what you’re continuing to miss here, is that this case is a slam dunk for the police officers and makes them look good! “Hey, man. Good police work, you saw a moving or traffic violation and went to initiate a stop, then followed our SOP and got the guy. Not only that you got Distribution Levels of a Controlled Substance! You should be promoted and have your picture on our Facebook page!”
How about instead you use an article where the police officer slammed into a mini van of nursing students headed to the hospital killing all 8 of them, and he barely walked away with a scratch on him and he got paid leave and early full retirement from the PTSD.
This post doesn’t say “all PITs are bad” in the title nor the article, and it’s not what I’m arguing at all either. I could give two shits about your opinion, because it is an opinion, about PITs in general. I don’t care. What I do care is that this post is the equivalent of “gone mild” content being submitted to “gone wild” subs. It’s out of place and doesn’t fit the theme of the sub, nor the spirit of the argument OP is trying to make.
And that shit bothers me because it waters down subs. WTF do we have themed subs, why don’t we just have a single page where we throw random shit at the walls until it sticks? Anarchy! Ahhh!!
Edit: I’m abandoning this thread at this point.
I have clearly articulated my argument throughout, repeating myself to multiple people, while also addressing their specific questions, concerns, or related or novel arguments.
I stand by, regardless downvotes, mockery, or trolls, that this post on the merits of the article provided, doesn’t fit the spirit of the sub. That’s it. To say or argue anything else would attribute more to the post, of your individual opinion, than is present here in the facts provided.
This time their stupid driving did not cause much damage. Other times that manuever has caused loss of life for those involved and innocent bystanders. Police should not be using pit manuevers at all. They are dangerous even for trained professionals in a controlled environment.
My entire point is that the regardless of your opinion about PITs, this very specific situation does not reflect negatively on police, as it sounds like a textbook example of what the police are going for, and therefor is out of place in this sub.
Instead, how about we have a different post that describes what you guys are now trying to attribute to this one: “PITs are bad, mmm’kay”. And in that post how about we describe and debate the merits with links that support that narrative. Because this one sorely missed the mark.
“Police generally shoulndnt shoot at black kids, but this black kid was a real asshole, so it’s justified.”
The pigs didnt know what was in the car when they risked the life of the driver and many people around.
Ok, so what you’re saying (outside of attributing ‘risks lives’ and to ‘many people around’ which isn’t clearly stated in this case… which is what I’m trying to say…) is that you have a fundamental issue with PITs in general, regardless of whether this one was or could have been low threat and low risk, because you don’t have any facts to state otherwise. What we do know is that didn’t cause the harm to anyone that you’re arguing.
So, re-read my argument and go start a new post about ‘PITs bad’ and stop trying to shoehorn in a best case scenario for police as an argument for ‘bad cop’. It looks terrible and is a dumb argument to try to make when* all you have is this terrible evidence to support your claim.
But if I think pits are bad than every use of pit by police is bad and therefore this article aligns with the topic here quite well.
Except what you’re continuing to miss here, is that this case is a slam dunk for the police officers and makes them look good! “Hey, man. Good police work, you saw a moving or traffic violation and went to initiate a stop, then followed our SOP and got the guy. Not only that you got Distribution Levels of a Controlled Substance! You should be promoted and have your picture on our Facebook page!”
How about instead you use an article where the police officer slammed into a mini van of nursing students headed to the hospital killing all 8 of them, and he barely walked away with a scratch on him and he got paid leave and early full retirement from the PTSD.
This post doesn’t say “all PITs are bad” in the title nor the article, and it’s not what I’m arguing at all either. I could give two shits about your opinion, because it is an opinion, about PITs in general. I don’t care. What I do care is that this post is the equivalent of “gone mild” content being submitted to “gone wild” subs. It’s out of place and doesn’t fit the theme of the sub, nor the spirit of the argument OP is trying to make.
And that shit bothers me because it waters down subs. WTF do we have themed subs, why don’t we just have a single page where we throw random shit at the walls until it sticks? Anarchy! Ahhh!!
Edit: I’m abandoning this thread at this point.
I have clearly articulated my argument throughout, repeating myself to multiple people, while also addressing their specific questions, concerns, or related or novel arguments.
I stand by, regardless downvotes, mockery, or trolls, that this post on the merits of the article provided, doesn’t fit the spirit of the sub. That’s it. To say or argue anything else would attribute more to the post, of your individual opinion, than is present here in the facts provided.