• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    I’m against Flock cameras. I didn’t expect to run into people on the anti side who are in denial about how the things work. Like, Flock truthers.

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          8 days ago

          That’s the whole point of their use of the “licence plate reader” euphemism. They are high definition, high refresh-rate cameras, and cloud-based as opposed to a CCTV system (would be OCTV I guess) that 100% can and do track people as has been shown by independent research

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      8 days ago

      They won’t create a searchable database of faces, assuming they work as advertised. However, the footage is streamed to a server (sometimes publicly accessible) and available for manual review.

      Edit: also BT/Wi-Fi MAC addresses of devices, whether on cars or not, are recorded, and can link drivers to their licence-plate-equipped cars even when they’re walking with the same phone or earpods

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        9 days ago

        All the news stories I’ve seen talk about concerns over tracking movement. This is the first I’ve heard about people worried about the actual video.

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            8 days ago

            Correct but Flock’s own system, if their public statements can be trusted, doesn’t do facial recognition itself. The main use is tracking vehicles using license plates and all kinds of visual cues, and Bluetooth/Wi-Fi devices by their MAC address and properties, and linking this huge swath of data together. Still, faces are recorded as video that can be checked manually or processed by third-party tools, including “AI” facial-recognition ones. Therefore, if a pedestrian destroys all Flock cameras and has Bluetooth earpods on them, there will be an easy way to link the events, and then the police will check if their face is visible in surviving footage and check the country-wide database if the person ever used the earphones in a vehicle near the cameras.

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              8 days ago

              Flock’s own system, if their public statements can be trusted,

              They can’t.

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                8 days ago

                Yeah that’s weasel shit, “our systems don’t do facial recognition” can just mean the cameras don’t have facial recognition built in and that’s all done off-cam on the backend systems.

                Facial recognition is still happening, but they can weasel out of admitting it by stipulating the camera isn’t capable of it.