Here’s my cool guess: Maybe he can sense her, but she was introduced to him as an important political figure first, which caused a blindspot in identifying any personal relevance she may have to him. Luke was sensed without any context because he was actively training?
Rogue One shatters that. At the end of the movie, we see Vader rip apart a bunch of rebels who are getting information to Leia. It ends minutes before A New Hope begins. Vader then shows up on Leias ship and immediately starts ripping into her. Whether Vader knew about her prior to this encounter, it shouldn’t matter. She is now a known ally of the Rebellion. He’s been known to squeeze information out of anyone with no hesitation, being able to sense their intent from miles away, but she completely bluffs him? This young woman who he knows is a rebel? He’s the leader of the Inquisitors. His whole deal is finding people who are force sensitive and then either killing or turning them. He’s been training people for years, able to sense levels of force sensitivity in them that the person isn’t even aware of.
People complain about NuTrek breaking established canon but there’s literally no example of it. Meanwhile Star Wars has written itself into such an extreme corner that their movies no longer make sense.
How did she bluff Vader? He took her and tortured and interrogated her, he didn’t fall for her lie. And she didn’t even know she was his daughter at the time, so why would he have sensed that?
I read an interview with Dave Filoni. He basically said that what he’s trying to fix with all the Star Wars shows on Disney+. He’s trying to fill in the major plot holes, clarify stuff the writers left vague, and make the movies at least somewhat reasonable.
As a nerd, I appreciate the effort, but he’s got a LOT of work to do.
I heard that he was doing that to bridge the gap between the Original Trilogy and the Sequel Trilogy, and that’s coming along well, but if he’s trying to bridge the gap between the Prequels and the Originals then he’s doing a genuinely terrible job. A lot of the inconsistencies between those two trilogies have come about because of his involvement and his shows. At that point he’d just be trying to clean up his own mess while patting himself on the back.
Ah okay. Then yeah, he’s doing a great job there in my opinion. I could always kinda see where they were going between OT and ST so didn’t bother me much. I also actively liked Lukes decline in TLJ and thought it fit the character really well. A dude who had been lifted up as the savior of the galaxy having a single moment of weakness and fear, his fight against the dark side slipping only for a moment but enough to do lasting damage? Loved it.
My guess was always that she was an active Force user, but since she didn’t spend a lot of time around other Force users, she learned to use her power defensively (being taught to hide from enemies as a child).
So she developed a natural “cloaking” effect, which she cultivated over time, and used to keep hiding from people (her father, the Empire) during her various escapades, so by the time she met Vader all her skill points were dumped into Hide in Plain Sight.
…and since why would Vader bother taking a second look at the Force presence of a random Senator’s daughter…
Rogue One shows Vader on a Rebel ship. A smaller ship undocks from that ship and speeds off. Vader watches it speed away. 5-10 minutes later, Vader catches up with it and boards it. That’s the opening of A New Hope.
She isn’t some random Senators daughter. She is someone who is on-board a rebel ship that’s holding information Vader wants back. Her being a Senators daughter and using the diplomatic immunity argument paints an even larger target on her.
She was his daughter, and based on Lukes feats and Yodas yammering, she is also insanely powerful. It is fully possible her raw force powers, instinctively honed into an “you ain’t seeing shit” effect over her entire life, are strong enough to bluff him.
The real cause is that she wasent his daughter at this point in the movies, because luke and leia weren’t related in the first one. George “i want han solo to be a lizard man” lucas leaned in and made it “weird” after the fact.
Here’s my cool guess: Maybe he can sense her, but she was introduced to him as an important political figure first, which caused a blindspot in identifying any personal relevance she may have to him. Luke was sensed without any context because he was actively training?
Rogue One shatters that. At the end of the movie, we see Vader rip apart a bunch of rebels who are getting information to Leia. It ends minutes before A New Hope begins. Vader then shows up on Leias ship and immediately starts ripping into her. Whether Vader knew about her prior to this encounter, it shouldn’t matter. She is now a known ally of the Rebellion. He’s been known to squeeze information out of anyone with no hesitation, being able to sense their intent from miles away, but she completely bluffs him? This young woman who he knows is a rebel? He’s the leader of the Inquisitors. His whole deal is finding people who are force sensitive and then either killing or turning them. He’s been training people for years, able to sense levels of force sensitivity in them that the person isn’t even aware of.
People complain about NuTrek breaking established canon but there’s literally no example of it. Meanwhile Star Wars has written itself into such an extreme corner that their movies no longer make sense.
How did she bluff Vader? He took her and tortured and interrogated her, he didn’t fall for her lie. And she didn’t even know she was his daughter at the time, so why would he have sensed that?
I read an interview with Dave Filoni. He basically said that what he’s trying to fix with all the Star Wars shows on Disney+. He’s trying to fill in the major plot holes, clarify stuff the writers left vague, and make the movies at least somewhat reasonable.
As a nerd, I appreciate the effort, but he’s got a LOT of work to do.
I heard that he was doing that to bridge the gap between the Original Trilogy and the Sequel Trilogy, and that’s coming along well, but if he’s trying to bridge the gap between the Prequels and the Originals then he’s doing a genuinely terrible job. A lot of the inconsistencies between those two trilogies have come about because of his involvement and his shows. At that point he’d just be trying to clean up his own mess while patting himself on the back.
Agreed. Original trilogy and sequel trilogy is what I was referring to. He’s trying to use the shows to bridge that gap.
Ah okay. Then yeah, he’s doing a great job there in my opinion. I could always kinda see where they were going between OT and ST so didn’t bother me much. I also actively liked Lukes decline in TLJ and thought it fit the character really well. A dude who had been lifted up as the savior of the galaxy having a single moment of weakness and fear, his fight against the dark side slipping only for a moment but enough to do lasting damage? Loved it.
Nah, the easy explanation is the Force is fucking with Vader.
My guess was always that she was an active Force user, but since she didn’t spend a lot of time around other Force users, she learned to use her power defensively (being taught to hide from enemies as a child).
So she developed a natural “cloaking” effect, which she cultivated over time, and used to keep hiding from people (her father, the Empire) during her various escapades, so by the time she met Vader all her skill points were dumped into Hide in Plain Sight.
…and since why would Vader bother taking a second look at the Force presence of a random Senator’s daughter…
Rogue One shows Vader on a Rebel ship. A smaller ship undocks from that ship and speeds off. Vader watches it speed away. 5-10 minutes later, Vader catches up with it and boards it. That’s the opening of A New Hope.
She isn’t some random Senators daughter. She is someone who is on-board a rebel ship that’s holding information Vader wants back. Her being a Senators daughter and using the diplomatic immunity argument paints an even larger target on her.
Why WOULDN’T Vader take a second look at her?
She was his daughter, and based on Lukes feats and Yodas yammering, she is also insanely powerful. It is fully possible her raw force powers, instinctively honed into an “you ain’t seeing shit” effect over her entire life, are strong enough to bluff him.
The real cause is that she wasent his daughter at this point in the movies, because luke and leia weren’t related in the first one. George “i want han solo to be a lizard man” lucas leaned in and made it “weird” after the fact.