Interested in getting a feel for what people may be likely to do IF reddit reverses their decision regarding API access, or reduces access fees to a reasonable level and 3rd party apps remain sustainable.

While I know the chances of this are extreeeemely slim, until 1st July there is an ever so slight chance this could still happen.

From my perspective, the community harm is done, and those who have left prior to July 1 have left due to principles, not because their app stopped working. As such, I’d be inclined to think most of those migrators would stay here in the fediverse.

But would we see a mass exodus back to reddit if the changes were undone? It’s easy to say no, but if it went back to operations as relatively normal, it may be easy to justify going back for some users.

I’d like to think I wouldn’t go back. I’ve deleted content and account from reddit. I’ll be happy here so long as there is enough userbase for some discussion.

  • dedale@kbin.social
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    Reddit was unusable way before the last scandal. Main problems being arbitrary, opaque moderation, astroturfing, low-effort posts, bots, general meanness and negativity.
    It got to the point where it felt like you were more likely to interact with a bot or a propagandist than a normal human being.
    Reddit is an advertising platform masquerading as social media.
    It’ll probably happen here too, but it might take a while.

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    Meh. I’m staying here. Reddit has been getting worse. The future should be federated, not centralized, so hopefully that stuff Reddit just did has very little chance of happening again.

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    They could abandon their plans, apologize and then give everyone a cute puppy as a sorry, and I still wouldn’t go back. Spez and his group of admins have shown their true colors, and it’s because of them that I refuse to ever rejoin. Their actions this past week have been downright dictatorial, engaging in doublethink, hyperbole and creating rules when it benefits them despite no prior communication with the communities they’ve steamrolled by force.

    As someone who recently had a 12 year old account, reddit and Spez can go fuck themselves.

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    I think everyone reading this from kbin or lemmy left out of principle, so they should also stay away from reddit out of principle.

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      Or at least try to. I haven’t been able to cut myself off from it and set up RSS feeds for subs buildapcsales and gamedeals

      http://teddit.net/r/buildapcsales/?api&type=rss

      http://teddit.net/r/gamedeals/?api&type=rss

      To use with feedly. Also, found a lemmy instance called https://lemmit.online/c/requests that will pull content from a subreddit to lemmy and set up gamedeals, but didn’t have luck with buildapcsales

      But, days of accounts is done. I don’t want to provide direct data to them anymore.

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      To be fair, there are some people who are here because they had their fill of John Oliver’s sexy pictures.

      edit: To clarify, I left out of principle just like what @Doll_Tow_Jet-ski said. Doesn’t mean my statement is untrue or that it’s inherently a bad thing that it’s not all idealistic exredditors using lemmy/kbin. It only means the John Oliver stuff is actually working and drove some people out of Reddit.

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        I dunno man. That was the first thing that made me actually want to go back. That and the butthole. I definitely regretted the butthole. Not sure what I was expecting. It was a butthole.

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            Interestingasfuck went nuclear and decided to allow NSFW content and essentially stop moderating, some dad posted that if he got enough upvotes he would post hi hairy butthole, which made it to the front page of r/all where it hovered and winked at world for a while.

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    In my case? Nothing. They thoroughly burned that bridge. They would have to rebuild it, and merely returning to the status quo after showing their hand isn’t enough.

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    I’ll live here, but I might poke into Reddit for the more obscure communities that can’t really survive a migration. Reddit knows what it wants and even if it fails this time, they’ll get sly with it and push more and more until they’re satisfied.

    The biggest news is going to make it over here at this point anyway.

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    I want to avoid enshitification, and enshitification is more or less the ultimate goal of those who own reddit. This isn’t the first time they’ve tried to extract value from the site with utter disregard for users and moderators. If they didn’t get their way this time, they’ll just try again later. Perhaps more politely or more slowly, but the writing is on the wall. Has been for a while.

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    For me, it’s not just that they screwed up the API changes, it’s that they’ve repeatedly kept doubling down since then.

    It’s also … I keep thinking back to Ellen Pao. They brought her in knowing that they wanted her to get rid of FPH and Victoria, knowing that at least the FPH thing was going to make her a target of the misogynistic GamerGate haters and bringing in a woman anyway, and they deliberately and repeatedly refused to give her any public support. It was completely reprehensible, and they cheerfully scapegoated her and kicked her to the curb when it was done.

    As bad as that was, I also see elements of the same thing happening here, where this is a highly unpopular change, and there’s no one else from reddit speaking up to support spez. I think they’re going to have him force through the changes and then kick him to the curb like they did Ellen. They’re not going to reverse any of the changes - it’s what they want, after all, but they’re going to let spez take all the heat and go on their merry way completely unphased.

    To be completely honest, I think spez deserves this: his job as CEO is to have vision, manage public relations, and handle crises, and he’s miserably failed at all of those. He misunderstood reddit’s most valuable assets (it’s commentary and the large group of people contributing and moderating the site for free), and he literally paid the API fees for some very profitable and potentially profitable companies to suck every piece of data from reddit; then he publicly targeted small publishers who enhance reddit instead of presenting them as collateral damage of the AI wars (I suspect to avoid bringing attention to his incredible lack of vision in letting everyone freely harvest data for their own lucrative products). And he’s clearly failing in the PR and managing crises front as well. But I truly believe that everyone at reddit is perfectly happy to let spez do this thing that they want done, and then they’ll throw him away when it’s done in an attempt to appease the users.

    Anyway, your question is “what will I do if reddit undoes the API changes”. Given my beliefs, I simply don’t see how I could possibly trust reddit management ever again. And trust is a really big thing with me; I don’t think I could ever go back.

    Unless you’re reddit management, here to gauge user temperament, in which case I will totally return if the API changes are undone, yes, of course I will, just trust me!

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    Reddit has clearly shown their priorities. If they change the policies now, they only do it for the money, not for the users.

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    Does not matter if they revert the changes or not at this point. I found a new home here and will keep using it.
    I will still keep my reddit-Account and do the same as with my FB-account: Visit the site once a month to check up on the one or two communities that unfortunately stayed there.

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    Imagine we’re at the point where the Titanic has split in two, and the remaining portion is held afloat by trapped air. You can patch the hole made by the iceberg, but it probably won’t change my plans too much.

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    Reddit has been so transparently awful in handling this whole situation that I wouldn’t go back. I can only imagine something similar would happen again not too far in the future anyway, regardless if they were to reverse their decision with the API.