• TheFonz@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      So if the kid had run over someone while driving away and killed them would that have been ok ? Or at what point do we draw the line?

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        1 year ago

        Sinply put, you can’t judge someone on something they haven’t done yet or they could potentially do.

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          True, but would you agree that past actions are predictors of possible future outcomes? Aren’t we always doing a risk assessment each time we perform an action? A 17 year old kid driving recklessly is not the same as a 40 year old driving to work, right? Can we agree on that at least?

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            Not necessarily no, and especially here, the kid had no previous issues with the police (he had no criminal record).
            He was definitely an idiot for driving recklessly (and without a license I believe), and being arrested by the police for that is fair.
            But then for some reason he got held at gunpoint by two angry and racist cops. I assume he got scared and tried to drive off (also a somewhat fair reaction especially coming from a teenager), then he got shot and killed. If he got away with it and ran over someone while fleeing, he also should have gotten served a prison sentence or similar, but definitely not death. As for the hypothetical 40 years old, he could get distracted one day and run over someone as well, and that doesn’t warrant death penalty either.

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              1 year ago

              I agree with your post here so have an upvote. I think I’m realizing Lemmy is the same clone of reddit where virtue signaling is more interesting than having a Convo. At least you tried so I appreciate that

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            When the action you perform is pulling the trigger of a gun aimed at a human being you better be pretty fucking sure of your risk assessment.

            There was no immediate and unavoidable risk to that cop nor to anyone else. Even if the kid was on drugs and speeding for fun shooting at him is not an acceptable response.

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        1 year ago

        So by your logic we should be able to shoot anyone driving a car because they could potentially hit someone and kill them. Nice. I’ll keep that in mind.

        • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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          So by your logic we should be able to shoot anyone driving a car because they could potentially hit someone and kill them

          My logic doesn’t entail shooting everyone that drives a car. My logic is saying that context matters. Should we allow all drivers in all situations to drive recklessly regardless of the outcomes? You know the answer is no, so why are you asking that question?

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              Come on…what a bad faith reduction of my position. I can tell there is no interest in having a conversation, just virtue signaling

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                  Yes, because asking for nuance and context in high stress situations is callous. Also, I never defended the cop but keep stroking your dick to feel good about your online virtue signaling.

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                    Dismissing the extra judicial killing of a 17 year old for the sake of “discussion” is callous. BuT fEeL gOoD aBoUt BeInG a PeDaNtiC DouChE.