There’s been a lot of speculation around what Threads will be and what it means for Mastodon. We’ve put together some of the most common questions and our responses based on what was launched today.
There’s been a lot of speculation around what Threads will be and what it means for Mastodon. We’ve put together some of the most common questions and our responses based on what was launched today.
They’re not competitors by any means, similar to how kbin is not a competitor to lemmy. Threads, kbin, mastodon, lemmy, and all other fediverse (activitypub) services go hand in hand, they all benefit eachother.
if you believe meta is going to act in the best interest of the fediverse, and not try to fuck it over, then please kindly remove your head from your ass.
I believe they may try, but I think the approach Mastodon is taking isn’t necessarily a warm embrace. They seem to be handling this with skepticism and I have read that they have plans to Defederate if Meta tries to exploit Activity Pub in any way.
lol, i can say the same back to you, if you think that instances de-federating from meta, de-federating from instances who haven’t de-federated from meta, dividing up content and users from eachother, won’t cause the fediverse to self implode, then you need to open your eyes.
All of this started due to people’s mindset of “eww facebook bad”, the creator of mastodon doesn’t think its an issue and is optimistic of the change, yet people still are refusing to change their mindset, i even saw someone bring up conspiracy that the mastodon founder got bribed by meta… which is absolutely ridiculous.
If things continue as is, with mass de-federation, you are going to kill the fediverse without realising. If you dislike meta, thats understandable, just de-federate client side, but if an instance owner makes that choice for all users, that would be censorship, something the fediverse aims to avoid. We all shit on meta/twitter/other large corps for censoring content, but when instance owner’s do it, its fine? De-federating for ideological reasons like this goes against the principles of federation.
The thing about the Fediverse is that you have the choice to pick an instance. We shit on “big tech” when they do something, because there isn’t anything else to do. I personally want to be on an instance that will defed the fuck out of threads (and anyone else who will bring over people who will delight themselves on harassing me and my friends) should they federate, and if you don’t want that you’re welcome to go to an instance that won’t, and we can still talk to each other.
ps: As far as I’m aware, Fediverse never “aimed to avoid censorship” nor had any “principles on federation”. In fact, there are large parts of Mastodon (well, mostly Pleroma/Akkoma/Soapbox) filled to the brim with the worst kinda people you can imagine, yet they’re all defederated into their own little sandbox. Nobody can decide who can use and build upon ActivityPub but we sure as shit can decide to not federate with a company so shit at moderation that everyone opposing federation with them seems to be a minority in one way or another.
Meta will act in Meta’s best interest. We don’t know yet whether that will be be beneficial or damaging to the Fediverse. It could be beneficial in terms of user numbers and general adoption. If they are arses then sure - defederate
I see no way they aren’t a competitor. Meta is a company. Companies exists to make money. Meta makes money by driving engagement and then monitizing via ads or user data sale for others to target ads.
Like are we all supposed to pretend a company, Meta of all companies, is an altruistic entity? Because that’s not how it works… At all.
Remove corporations from social networks.
Then don’t use the official instance, ads or tracking won’t affect you if you’re using threads from a kbin instance for e.g.
i don’t think that’s fair, not all corporations are evil, besides non-profits exist like signal/mozilla.
It’s poisoning the well though, even if I don’t see the ads. Also they will prioritize inflammatory content to drive engagement, which would affect other instances as well (you know, like they do for all their other apps/platforms).
And corporations are not good or bad, but the for profit ones… are for profit. And I’m sorry but there is no justification for a profit motive in social media.
This is true with Kbin and Lemmy, and Mastodon instances but Meta doesn’t have that mindset. They are going to have ads and are going to see users not on their instance as eyes that rightfully belong to them that are not set on those ads.
And? If people decide to use their instance, they’re likely fine with seeing ads or being tracked, that’s their choice. For those who aren’t ok with that, myself included, don’t have to use the official instance. I don’t see what’s wrong with that.
Again, from the user POV, yes, that is fine. From Meta POV, it’s incentive to try and lock as many eyes in as possible using tactics that we probably won’t think of because we aren’t able to think from the POV of being pure scum.
Yes
Meta is different. The others aren’t in competition with each other, but for-profit business is in competition by definition.