I’m getting really tired of trying to run away from big tech, only to be ensnared again by the greed and/or naivety of sites who ultimately cave to the whims of big tech.
Mastodon has already caved, and the silence of lemmy’s and kbin’s developers over this matter isn’t exactly reassuring. Since I more or less still have my bags packed from leaving reddit, what are some other communities I could try that would be more resilient to corporate encroachment?
I am glad the instance of Mastodon I use will defederate from meta.
The two biggest instances at the moment as far as I know is kbin social and lemmy world if one allows meta I will just use the other one. Though I recommend any instance that has signed the anti meta pact.
This shows a list of instances that signed it I would pick one of those.
Im not, because its forcing the decision on all users. Users can de-federate client side already, so it only affects them, the decision shouldn’t be made globally for all users of that instance.
Factually untrue
It’s true in Kbin in the sense that you can block instances as a user preference. You can also block any other domain as well, which means what a post links to. Theoretically you can block Facebook itself, Instagram, Imgur, etc.
Blocking a domain through kbin only blocks threads from appearing on your feed. You still see users from that domain and their comments, and they see you and anything you post since it gets sent to their server. It is also a feature only available on kbin so tough luck for lemmies.
Good point, I hadn’t thought about users and comments.
Thanks for the info!
I haven’t quite figured out how to do that. I can block instances by going to the instance homepage, but I can’t figure out how to block domains.
how so? you absolutely can de-federate client side in mastodon. In kbin, you can sort of do the same as well, but comments/users will still appear, just not posts.
You can stop your comments from being sent to specific instances? Client-side filters just hide incoming traffic but AP is still doing its own thing in the background afaik, but do correct me if I’m wrong. At least I couldn’t find anything to suggest otherwise, and client-side does kinda imply that it’s just a visual alteration on the client’s side.
But I was mostly talking about kbin/lemmy, sorry about that. I dont have that much experience with mastodon yet.
Owners of an instance can do whatever they want. That’s the whole point of the fediverse. If you don’t like it, then change to an instance that does what you like or create your own. It’s that simple.
Right so people escape meta and other large corps for censorship, & selfish intent, but a mastodon instance owner can do the same and its justifiable? Bit hypocritical isn’t it?
Individuals are forgiven for certain things purely because their influence doesn’t threaten the entire Fediverse.
Being allowed to do what you want doesn’t mean it justified. That’s not what I said. Move to an instance with nicer mods or make your own. Really, that’s all there is to it. You’re looking for something to be annoyed with.
We’re talking about the fediverse as a whole. The whole thing is threatened by meta.
in this case we don’t talk about users who want to block users of another instance. The problem is not the users of meta. The problem is meta itself and all the problems it will bring to the federated network. Whoever cannot see that their intentions are not to promote federated networks but to exploit and extinguish them, is just naive.
i think its naive to think that mass de-federation won’t cause severe consequences to the fediverse.
it depends what you consider as consequence. For me, setting up a clear boundary between what is now known as fediverse and whatever it is this that meta will create is not consequence but choice.
Yeah, it seems like their idea of consequences is the fediverse not becoming mainstream. But, the draw of the fediverse to me is that it can be an anti corporate space where power is more in the hands of individuals than corporations. A huge community of millions like Facebook or Reddit isn’t the reason I’m here. Seems like centralization is what they really want, which doesn’t need the fediverse to begin with.
I agree. The mass influx of users from reddit have brought here people who are not familiar with the core principles behind such projects. They literally see it as a free social media that could potentially be in the place of lets say facebook. They don’t understand that the mainstream social media are what they are today because of decisions that have been taken based only on their profit. And this is something that we don’t want to copy here
Isn’t the whole draw of the fediverse that people aren’t stuck to being in one instance and can leave for one that matches their own? Each instance having the autonomy to do what they want while choosing how much they stay connected or not is a pro to me. This isn’t reddit or facebook. You can even run your own instance for those who don’t want decisions to be made on their behalf.