This is a big problem. It creates the illusion that /c/cats on one particular instance is the real /c/cats.

This is the root of re-centralization and it must be pulled out.

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    Beehaw is not federated, it functionally has ceased to exist.

    There will not be a winner instance.

    If all of the Lemmy federation cannot be read from any random instance, then it already is a failed experiment.

    Not 1% of1% of1% of 1% cares what the instance name is or what their rules are. I am probably still missing many orders of magnitude.

    The beehaw controversy is obvious. You don’t need to know the specific. I don’t know them and I don’t care about them nor what their story is.

    The lesson is clear, tyrannical instance owners exists, and they will leverage your participation against you and cut your relationship.

    There exists poisonous instances on Lemmy and they must be disempowered. Instances must be nothing more than portals to the whole. They must have no power.

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      Beehaw is defederated from two major popular instances and in talks with the admins of those instances about the path for refederation. I’m looking at this post from beehaw. You are taking an event, recasting it as something it isn’t, and trying to use that as evidence of a point. And in fact, you seem to be suggesting that instances that aren’t moderated how you want should be defederated. Which. Yes. That’s. That’s the point. That’s what Beehaw did. And they’re even communicating about how to move forwars

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      Dude, it’s obvious you don’t understand how lemmy or the fediverse works. You need to read more and maybe ask questions to clear up your misunderstanding before you go around making grand pronouncements about how lemmy should be run. A little bit of humility goes a long way.

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      Utter bullshit.

      https://beehaw.org/instances

      You can scroll to the bottom and see it’s only defederated from a handful of instances.

      Furthermore these is no fucking Lemmy federation. Lemmy is one part of accessing the Fediverse. Ironic that someone worried one instance might get all the credit has no problem giving it all to one platform.

      Honestly I’m not far off thinking removing any Lemmy instance at all is the best bet, Lemtards are getting annoying.

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      What are you on? So instances should have no say in regards to who they federate with? Also it sounds like you’re advocating for centralization… Why would we want that?

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        To me it sounds like they’re advocating for decentralization. Defederation means less traffic for an instance. If the majority of users are already on one instance, defederation could end it. I imagine most people want an instance where they can reach the most people. If they, understandably, pick the largest instance, it may not be long before it holds all the power, in terms of user acivity or count, and becomes the center.

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          I don’t understand the push back. Decentralization is Lemmy’s one trick. It is the entire thing that sets it apart.

          The ideal would be a network of single user instances.

          Multi users instances being an allowance for helping the technically challenged, but should be considered equivalent to toothbrush sharing.

          All single user instance should have every /c/community. In fact, community is overselling it. They are really hashtags plus a sidebar.