I think Qualcomm is probably charging far too much for the SoC. Their pricing has been super high for years because they know nobody is matching their performance on the mobile space. Not sure how much of it is the smaller process nodes too.
Isn’t that a bubble? Phones are 10x more performant than they need to be anyway. Not like in gaming/server market where it’s always too slow, no matter how fast.
My phone is now 7 years old and it still works perfectly. Maybe not the newest of the newest games, but i don’t care for games on my phone anyways.
And the amazing contributors keeping lineageos up to date for my phone model makes me not need a newer phone :)
Yeah it’s honestly quite impressive. Software developers have managed to take orders of magnitudes of Hardware improvements over the years and keep Pace ensuring that software still runs like complete utter trash garbage
Battery life has definitely improved, my old android phones (Moto 2, HTC Evo 4g, Samsung Galaxy s2, nexus 5) wouldn’t usually last a day, meanwhile my fold 2 now lasts 2-3
My understanding is that Apple had bought up all of TSMC’s 3nm capacity in 2023. That exclusivity may be up now explaining why Qualcomm is selling chips based on 3nm. Looks like they are working with Samsung and TSMC on this chip. This article is bizarre as it underplays the reason someone would buy this laptop. Long battery life, low heat, high performance thin/light is very valuable. Not everyone wants to play games. Will be interesting to see if Microsoft delivers.
If power consumption is lower, that means can have a more compact cooling. There’s a lot of people who would pay the premium for longer lasting and lighter laptops, myself included.
If it’s anything like the new MacBooks, then hell yes. I can go full days at the office, programming, without a charger. My old dell xps would crap out after 2 hours, tops.
Edit: I would come home with 60% battery left on the MacBook.
If it isn’t, then there is almost no point in going ARM for Windows. Apple demonstrated that it can be quite lower or better perf at same power consumption.
Yep, yep. Also their ARM chips might quickly become more powerful than x64 ones as is the case with Mx ones. At least when it comes to laptops. The article is really weird by focusing on gaming experience, is this really a big market for laptops?
Idk Mx chip. I googled. Is it a chip for smart home devices?
The demand for gaming 💻 has been high. Firms made names like Rog, Legion and Predator as they’ve wanted to give a considerable amount of focus to gaming.
Also, there can be high profit in high-end gaming 💻.
There’s high profit too in thin and low-mass 💻. For example, enterprise sales. Say a firm with 10000 workers buys 💻 from Asus. High profit.
I think Qualcomm is probably charging far too much for the SoC. Their pricing has been super high for years because they know nobody is matching their performance on the mobile space. Not sure how much of it is the smaller process nodes too.
Isn’t that a bubble? Phones are 10x more performant than they need to be anyway. Not like in gaming/server market where it’s always too slow, no matter how fast.
My phone is now 7 years old and it still works perfectly. Maybe not the newest of the newest games, but i don’t care for games on my phone anyways. And the amazing contributors keeping lineageos up to date for my phone model makes me not need a newer phone :)
People said that 10 years ago and all these phones are barley usable now.
Yeah it’s honestly quite impressive. Software developers have managed to take orders of magnitudes of Hardware improvements over the years and keep Pace ensuring that software still runs like complete utter trash garbage
https://xkcd.com/1718/
Not to speak of the battery life that hasn’t improved at all.
Battery life has definitely improved, my old android phones (Moto 2, HTC Evo 4g, Samsung Galaxy s2, nexus 5) wouldn’t usually last a day, meanwhile my fold 2 now lasts 2-3
My understanding is that Apple had bought up all of TSMC’s 3nm capacity in 2023. That exclusivity may be up now explaining why Qualcomm is selling chips based on 3nm. Looks like they are working with Samsung and TSMC on this chip. This article is bizarre as it underplays the reason someone would buy this laptop. Long battery life, low heat, high performance thin/light is very valuable. Not everyone wants to play games. Will be interesting to see if Microsoft delivers.
If it is not cheaper than x86 then people will just keep buying x86 computers.
If power consumption is lower, that means can have a more compact cooling. There’s a lot of people who would pay the premium for longer lasting and lighter laptops, myself included.
Is it tho?
If it’s anything like the new MacBooks, then hell yes. I can go full days at the office, programming, without a charger. My old dell xps would crap out after 2 hours, tops.
Edit: I would come home with 60% battery left on the MacBook.
I appreciate Dave2d’s “M2 Macbook air versus Windows” vid. Hope he’ll make an M3 Macbook air versus Windows.
Yes
If it isn’t, then there is almost no point in going ARM for Windows. Apple demonstrated that it can be quite lower or better perf at same power consumption.
Yep, yep. Also their ARM chips might quickly become more powerful than x64 ones as is the case with Mx ones. At least when it comes to laptops. The article is really weird by focusing on gaming experience, is this really a big market for laptops?
An arm steamdeck that could run games would be sick.
I bed valve is already experimenting with box86 and box64.
I think you can find videos of Skyrim running poorly on a raspberry pi.
Idk Mx chip. I googled. Is it a chip for smart home devices?
The demand for gaming 💻 has been high. Firms made names like Rog, Legion and Predator as they’ve wanted to give a considerable amount of focus to gaming.
Also, there can be high profit in high-end gaming 💻.
There’s high profit too in thin and low-mass 💻. For example, enterprise sales. Say a firm with 10000 workers buys 💻 from Asus. High profit.
Idk which generates more profit.
That is a fair point.