• AdeptusPrimaris@lemmy.ml
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    Americans own their own land? I thought that a lot of them are in spiralling home loan debts( among other debts) for most of their lives, and the majority of the rest are renting, and can’t even dream of even owning property. Not the rich, of course.

    That’s not even taking into account the massive homeless population that the US criminalises and leaves to fend for themselves and just die.

    So…how is that better than being provided the security of housing that China is doing?

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      If americans own their land, what are taxes for?

      Ahhh americans, can’t get through their thick skulls.

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        Taxes are for the local community that pays for fire, police and schools. It also helps subsidize utilities for the community.

        Now if I invested money in a plot of land that has no such things. Then my taxes are minimal, only paying for the federal government and maybe some small local government such as wildlife conservation.

        My thick skull has invested into China in the past and the government took back the land they leased to me. Not even refunded me close to what I paid for it. Don’t let me get started with how much money I had to bribe these fuckers to get the transactions done.

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          I am a totally real person who actually has bought land in China and knows that the government is extremely authoritarian.

          And it’s against the rules to lie in the internet and you can trust everyone for what they say… Certainly there isn’t any evidence of people lying on the internet…

          Thick skulls indeed…

          Go spread your fake conspiracy theory somewhere else, you fucking fascist. People here aren’t gonna buy your bullshit lies.

          You don’t own the land underneath your feet in America, But in China, at least the land is owned collectively.

          Oh, that’s right. In actuality, the government doesn’t own the land in China. The people do. The government just manages it for the people. So, in essence, every single person in China actually owns a part of the land they stand on. How interesting. Socialism is a very interesting system, isn’t it? And considering 94% of people own a home in China, I think their reputation for land ownership is significantly outpacing the United States reputation for land ownership.

          But as a totally real person who actually bought land in China, you already know these facts, don’t you?

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      Yes, I own the land I buy. The building that sits on it.

      I was fortunate enough to have government support for my initial home purchase and since then my investment portfolio has increased ever since. Can’t say for others, but I also invested money early on in life in opposed to spending on stupid shit.

      The two countries have different government dynamics. One is freedom to prosper and also freedom to fail. While the other is no freedom but there is the golden contract.

      As for the “housing security” that you’re talking about. Are you talking about the housing collapse that is currently happening or the shoddy government homes defunded by bribes that the locals are calling tofu homes?