cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/181146
I am assuming many of you have heard about the potential of Meta creating an ActivityPub enabled client (TheVerge, PCMag etc. have made articles). I was just wondering what people’s thoughts are on this, and if it came down to it should instances in the fediverse defederate from it considering it could be a case of Embrace, extend, extinguish.
There’s a DefederateMeta magazine at !DefederateMeta@fedia.io if you’re interested, which includes an anti-meta pact on cryptpad with the responses viewable on a seperate website if you care to see which instance admins have agreed.
I’m just curious what my fellow sh.it.heads think of this development in the fediverse, any input is appreciated!
Reposting at the request of can, within the context of c/agora should this instance defederate from any future Meta activity pub enabled clients? From my understanding it is more so a Twitter-clone and I’d argue a more severe problem for Kbin / Mastodon, but it is still worth discussing here.
I think there are really great points / angles being presented on this issue. If you Shitheads want to de-federate, I’ll stand in solidarity; However, I very much concur with a lot of the salient nuance being presented in this thread, along with the linked threads.
At the end of the day, this particular community should take action in defense of the plural. Those who feel otherwise, revel in the utility of freedom-of-exit that the fediverse grants us – yet, I hope your new community will stay federated so we can continue to share ideas.
Off topic but I never knew I would ever enjoy being called a shithead.
sh.it.heads, my guy. Shitheads are assholes, (most) sh.it.heads are not. This is my (ultimately meaningless) hill to die on.
[On topic] Agreed, there is a lot of nuance re: dealing with Meta and the implications for the Fediverse writ large. I am still firmly in the ‘Fuck Meta, cut them off wherever possible’, but understand concerns of this creating a split that ends up with Meta being the defacto Fediverse for many users later on.
To this I’d say: tell people about other instances. Be the guy who says “Oh man, I saw this hilarious thing on sh.itjust.works - oh, what is that? Well…” and send a link [or any other instance, whatever, but I like this one]. Post cool stuff here. removed about Meta stuff loudly, often, and underscore the fact that THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES, AND YOU CAN JOIN NOW! Print some posters, drop instance links in other places where discussion seems warranted, tell anybody and everybody. Those who wanna Meta will Meta regardless, but there’s some momentum here re: moving away from large social media companies right now. Why federate with a wolf who wants to consume you?
Maybe it’s a tad idealistic, but accepting it as an inevitability seems lame as fuck to me, even if it is indeed inevitable. Die with a sword in your hand and all that.
Noted that while my views are definitely shared, they may not be a representation of the majority when it comes down to a vote.
lol, sorry. Sh.it.heads**
I agree with your added notes. If Meta’s P92 instance became the de-facto party that everyone’s at, I would likely self-host my own instance and use that to browse/communicate, if there’s anything of value there; I know a lot of Homebrewing groups flock to Facebook today. I would keep my sh.itjust.works account to have more meaningful engagement. It’s kinda like my two emails… my shitty gmail account I’ve had for a long time & my email meant for more curated communication.
Personally, I’m enjoying both sh.itjust.works & my niche Mastodon instance (noc.social). It’s nice to be part of a community, but be able to follow/search those beyond. I agree with your ideals that we should praise this method and educate everyone who misses the protocol for a platform.