Yes. Everything else is only because we perceive it differently, notably culturally. And that depends on the individual, time and culture that percieves it. And our perceptions aren’t always good but are built from other things including misconceptions.
It’s something that happens naturally, yes. I’m not picking and choosing nature. We can decide what we want to be, including the ability to chose to not be a bigot.
Animals frequently murder those other than themselves, so then is what could be considered bigotry also natural? If this is all natural then what is the whole point of calling things natural?
This is not a meme of everything natural being allowed but a meme countering bigots claiming homosexuality is unnatural which they take as the reason to not want it allowed (because they’ve already lost on the angle of it being ethically wrong). Just because something is natural, doesn’t mean it’s good. It just means it’s not unnatural and you’re somehow confusing the two. What’s good is an ethical and altogether different question.
Or in simpler terms: Bigots be bigots (homosexuality is evil) > we prove them wrong > they still be bigots and move goal posts (homosexuality is unnatural) > we for some reason indulge them and prove them wrong on the moved goal post > they move goal posts again claiming to have already forgotten that we’ve already long established that homosexuality isn’t ethically wrong, looking insane in the process > I wonder why i even talk to you and block you because every single time i see a comment of yours it’s some negative bigoted shit and I’m tired of engaging with you. You manage to make yourself look insane all on your own anyways
If someone says “homosexuality is unnatural” it would be in reference to what they see as the natural state of humanity and not at all related to animals. Relating animals to the conversation is just dumb, it has nothing to do with anything. You can disagree with them, but animal behavior proves nothing.
So then if animals do it then its the same as humans doing it?
Yes. Everything else is only because we perceive it differently, notably culturally. And that depends on the individual, time and culture that percieves it. And our perceptions aren’t always good but are built from other things including misconceptions.
So when a human rapes or murders and eats another human that is natural becuase animals do this?
Or maybe animals and humans are not the same and we dont get to pick and chose for memes…
It’s something that happens naturally, yes. I’m not picking and choosing nature. We can decide what we want to be, including the ability to chose to not be a bigot.
Animals frequently murder those other than themselves, so then is what could be considered bigotry also natural? If this is all natural then what is the whole point of calling things natural?
This is not a meme of everything natural being allowed but a meme countering bigots claiming homosexuality is unnatural which they take as the reason to not want it allowed (because they’ve already lost on the angle of it being ethically wrong). Just because something is natural, doesn’t mean it’s good. It just means it’s not unnatural and you’re somehow confusing the two. What’s good is an ethical and altogether different question.
Or in simpler terms: Bigots be bigots (homosexuality is evil) > we prove them wrong > they still be bigots and move goal posts (homosexuality is unnatural) > we for some reason indulge them and prove them wrong on the moved goal post > they move goal posts again claiming to have already forgotten that we’ve already long established that homosexuality isn’t ethically wrong, looking insane in the process > I wonder why i even talk to you and block you because every single time i see a comment of yours it’s some negative bigoted shit and I’m tired of engaging with you. You manage to make yourself look insane all on your own anyways
If someone says “homosexuality is unnatural” it would be in reference to what they see as the natural state of humanity and not at all related to animals. Relating animals to the conversation is just dumb, it has nothing to do with anything. You can disagree with them, but animal behavior proves nothing.