In a significant data breach, hacktivist group NullBulge has infiltrated Disney’s internal Slack infrastructure, leaking 1.2TB of sensitive data. This breach, posted on the cybercrime platform Breach Forums on July 12, 2024, exposes many of Disney’s internal communications, compromising messages, files, code, and other proprietary information.

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      Internal slack infrastructure

      Taking this part of the description at face value anyway, this sounds like the opposite of the cloud.

      That being said, I still agree with the statement

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        I don’t think Slack has a self hosted version, and does not offer IP allow listing. There’s nothing preventing someone to go to https://disney.slack.com/. I think when they say “internal” they mean for internal employees, and not like a thing for fans.

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          I think when Disney demands an internally-hosted version of your product, then the sales team tells engineering that they’ll provide one, and mark the price up accordingly. That kind of thing doesn’t appear on the external listing for everyone else.

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            Why would Disney demand that?

            Why would they choose slack if they want to host, maintain and be responsible for the internal chat themselves?

            They choose slack because they do it for them so that they don’t have to do it themselves. That is the selling point for them.

            Businesses buy cloud services, because they do not want to manage stuff themselves.

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              They can still have support contracts and SLA etc from slack.
              It’s just that the servers slack runs on are on-prem and completely controlled by the business buying into the self hosted licence.
              The benefits should be tighter security (say, can only be accessed via VPN), and for many many MAU probably lower costs. Chances are, Disney already has datacenter ops and hardware contracts.

              And why choose slack? For quite a while, it was extremely common for developers (maybe even industry standard?). It had loads of features in the small market of internal chat programs. And it’s easy to build extensions and integrations for.

              I’m not saying that Disney is running on-prem slack, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were

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              Your logic isn’t making sense.

              The code would end up somewhere for others to use…? What?

              One-off products or beta offerings are often kept private, sometimes indefinitely.

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                In this case, Disney is using Slack Cloud-hosted for internal communication, but I can definitely understand people interpreting it differently.

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              Providing Disney with an internally hostable version of Slack doesn’t require giving them the code. They can just ship them compiled binaries

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          They do. You pay extra for it. You have to have apache or a web server configured for it, and a lot of space. Source: I configured one like 4 years ago.

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              Welcome to the world of B2B where 98% of products are listed nowhere and of those products you get a listing the price is either hidden or not the price anyone really pays.

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                That’s what I hate the most in B2B. No transparency. How am I supposed to trust you if we start this way?

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              I can’t find it now, but my company attempted to get that from Slack and IIRC it was an option but more expensive than they were willing to pay.

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            That sounds like user error on Disney’s part then. My company uses IP whitelisting just fine.

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    Good. Based for Nullbulge that they have released the source for free. Their motive is to put pressure on Disney due to their wrongdoings against creative artists.

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    Huh, I looked through the website of the hacking team and they use slurs and talk about posting on 4chan, it’s not a great look for a group trying to get on the good side of creative peoples imo

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      Plus in their blog post they mention that they haven’t read through most of the leaks themselves so they don’t even know what kind of info they might be posting about potentially unrelated people, in an attack on “AI” that won’t stop disney even a little bit. Like, I understand the desire to help creative people but I don’t see how this is doing that

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        If you’re a grey-hat/chaotic-good hacker intent on exposing corporate greed or whatever, with a cache like that, you’ve got a couple options…either release inmediately, or review the data to minimize collateral damage and release.

        If the intent was to help people, and there was no driving force to release immediately, then they should’ve waited and reviewed the data.

        I really worry if this is going to lead to my overly-ambitious infosec group putting the kibash on our unofficial/shadow-IT (fully internal) MatterMost.

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          Review the data cost your time (which is work time, could be transfer into money).

          So, better release it all.

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        also while I am on my soap box, ai-bro and crypto-bro are gendered insults and we should do better

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    In a shocking move, the wage slaves found that their bosses know that they are severely underpaid.

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      Passwords and lotsa creds. I know an infra engineer who stores all of the keys to the projects he’s involved in his message to self Slack. When I asked him about it he told me ‘when I found out that the company billed my time 5x my salary to clients I stopped caring’ and I was like OK that’s fair ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        Depends. Our engineering slack (Few thousand members) doesn’t contain secrets for a few reasons:

        1. Secret scanning
        2. We have a /secret bot that will take your secret, store it securely, and then present a GUI for each person with access to display that secret “for just that person”. And then after a set period of time it’s made inaccessible, and wiped from the infra.
        3. Training and knowledge transfer on secret security

        This has been incredibly effective. Especially the secret bot.

        Turns out that the problem with people sharing secrets is just a matter of convenience. If you make a secure way convenient then everyone tends to just use it by default.

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    An export like this does not include private slack channels from what I know of Slack design and export mechanisms

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    1.5 terabytes of text is a staggering amount of data, and that is just one channel. The thought of that much ”talking" going on in one company is overwhelming.