• Fredselfish@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    77
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    I will donate to her so set it up we should be helping her. It bullshit and should be 100% illegal. It literally a foreign government interfering in our elections. Why the fuck are we allowing this?

    • barsquid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      34
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      In 2010 a Repub SCOTUS decided corporations are people. They were able to do so because in 2000 a Repub SCOTUS illegally decided the election for the Repubs.

    • SoJB@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Well, the GOP had project 2025 planned for decades and the DNC had project “suppress any semblance of leftism in the US” going on since the Southern Strategy.

      One of them succeeded.

        • WamGams@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          3 months ago

          It is 100% financed by Israel?

          Just to confirm, you are staying that the nation of Israel pays for all of it, and not the 3 million plus Americans who are members?

          If that’s what you are saying than I have to respond by saying, “you are lying, you have never looked this up.”

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        19
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        It’s a legally distinct but de facto integrated part of the Israeli government. Anyone claiming otherwise is ignorant, delusional, or dishonest.

        • WamGams@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          19
          ·
          3 months ago

          Do you realize that you are accusing 3 million American citizens who are all Jews, of being Israeli government agents?

          Do you see how that comes off to people who are not already in your bubble?

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            16
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            you are accusing 3 million American citizens who are all Jews, of being Israeli government agents?

            I am not, no. I am correctly pointing out that AIPAC is a de facto Israeli government agency which has support from both Jewish and gentile Zionists.

            You’re the only one conflating Jewdom and Zionism. Which is ACTUALLY antisemitic.

            Do YOU see how THAT comes off to people who are not already in YOUR bubble?

            • WamGams@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              21
              ·
              3 months ago

              Ahh, yes, the people who call out antisemitism and incorrect statements are the true antisemites.

              Lol, you have shown your true colors and I won’t be engaging any further.

              • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                9
                ·
                3 months ago

                the people who call out criticism of AIPAC antisemitism are the true antisemites engaging in the antisemitic trope of equating all Jewish people with the genocidal actions of a fascist apartheid regime

                There, fixed your ridiculous strawman to reflect my ACTUAL claim.

                Lol, you have shown your true colors and I won’t be engaging any further

                Good. Less genocide apologia and false accusations for me to refute.

                • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  12
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  I never equated all Jews with Israel.

                  But please, feel free to continue lying. With practice you may actually eventually get good at it.

                  • 8000gnat@reddthat.com
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    8
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    I won’t be engaging any further.

                    Ron Howard voice but they did

                    I never equated all Jews with Israel

                    Ron Howard voice but they had

                  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    You equated Jews in general with the Israeli government agency AIPAC, accusing me of antisemitism based on my factual criticism of AIPAC. That’s basically the same thing.

                    Weren’t you going to stop engaging, though? I guess you were lying about that too 🤷

          • Maggoty@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            3 months ago

            AIPAC does not have 3 million lobbyists and they aren’t all Jews. Stop being sensational.

            • WamGams@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              3 months ago

              I didn’t say AIPAC had 3 million lobbyists.

              If all you guys can do is purposefully misconstrue everything your opposition says, it probably means you are wrong.

              • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                3 months ago

                That’s who has to register as foreign agents. The lobbyists. Because it’s about tracking foreign influence in the government. You could donate money to the British royal family today, that doesn’t make you a foreign agent.

                Do you get it yet?

                • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  So you entered a conversation by pretending I said something I didn’t and when told thats what you were doing, you decided that meant I don’t know what lobbying meant.

                  It’s good to see you are up to the same bad faith tricks you have been since I arrived here, June of last year. Never change, my friend, though that goes without saying, since you clearly never intend to.

                  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    Do you realize that you are accusing 3 million American citizens who are all Jews, of being Israeli government agents?

                    This was you yeah?

                • WamGams@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  I would also point out that the 3 million members of AIPAC are not donating to Israel, they are donating to AIPAC.

                  Unless a lobby group has been sanctioned, all Americans can donate to whatever PAC they see fit. That’s called the first amendment.