A response to Daring Fireball’s recent thinkpieces about Fediverse admins wanting to block Meta’s new ActivityPub platform.

  • maynarkh@feddit.nl
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    1 year ago

    aren’t we also getting access to the value created on their platforms too

    I guess we are, just as we had access to Reddit’s value. That’s the fear I guess, this is just part of the business cycle.

    First, they are going to provide value, be real nice until they are latched on, embrace the platform. Then they are going to start providing value to the instance owners by developing mod tools, better ways to more easily connect instances, maybe even some AI powered spam filter to block malicious instances, extending the.

    Finally we’ll realize they own the thing as they extinguish competitors by removing compatibility to “unverified” stuff in the name of security and we realized Meta has succeeded in extinguishing the free Fediverse.

    It might not be like that, but it has been so many times.

    • Qazwsxedcrfv000@lemmy.unknownsys.com
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      1 year ago

      I wholeheartedly share the worry of rug pulling but we have to dance with the devils aka evil corps one way or another as we have no mean to eradicate them. As long as the goals aligned to a large enough extent, the alliance should still be accepted despite the unholiness.

      Meta’s platform(s) supporting ActivityPub can potentially give us a leverage. If they do honour how the system works and be reciprocal, it means they no longer monopolize the content (from which most values to us the users are derived) on its platforms. So if another Reddit madness happens again, valuable contents created would have been (or could be made) distributed across the fediverse already. That would make migration much easier. Just a change of URL and business as usual for most people. Of course you may say I am being overly optimistic here but there is no point in being pessimistic either. The whole Thread thing is still a rumour after all. Maybe it will never see the light of sun.

      • Kichae@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        But that’s the thing. For a lot of people here, the goals are fundamentally misaligned. Much of this space was made by, and is populated by, people who explicitly and specifically walked away from corporate social media.

        We’re here exactly because we don’t want them.

        Obviously, that’s not everybody, but so many of us have actually learned the lessons of the last 15 months.