So, like, a few years ago, I had this co-worker. She was vegan in the “annoying” way. Most vegans? You wouldn’t know it unless you knew them. In any case that wasn’t her.
She wasted no time telling everyone that they weren’t allowed to bring meat into the office- that the smell of it made her ill, and so, we had to be vegan to.
Well. Unfortunately for her that’s not a reasonable accommodation. Not that we didn’t try to make some effort (not microwaving food when she’s in the break room, etc,)(to be fair, our attempt to be reasonable ended after about the third sign declaring the office meat-free.)
In any case she waged a small war on it over the course of a few days- mostly hanging up passive aggressive signs and being snippy whenever some one walked by with anything even vaguely meat like, (including, in point of fact leftover mushroom stew that is, in fact, vegan. It’s why I think she was full of shit about the smell making her ill.)
Things came to a head when she decided it was a good idea to to go into the break room fridge and toss everything into the garbage. (Including another coworkers veg fried rice with crispy tofu,)
Now, do you think that anyone in that office was persuaded to go vegan?
Or do you imagine that HR fired her ass for being an overbearing, condescending removed- and a thief as well?
I’ll give you a hint: the steaks my boss got and I grilled for lunch were delicious.
The point being: food is integral to culture, and in many ways, part of how we socialize. It’s not something that you can just demand we change and not expect people to react well to.
Making arguments are all well and good, but they won’t really persuade anyone either. You’re literally talking about changing a few millennia of cultural norms.
Sure we can have that discussion, but really, if you have to get preachy, you have to get demanding or “dramatic” like my ex-coworker…. All it does is makes people remember that rather than the actual impactful points of the discussion.
Making arguments are all well and good, but they won’t really persuade anyone either. You’re literally talking about changing a few millennia of cultural norms.
Tradition is no excuse for exploiting and slaughtering the animals. Did you know slavery or stoning people to death were considered traditional practices.
Stop being a weak bystander and knock it off with defending the current day atrocities where pigs are being gassed, calves are separated from their mothers only to be placed in cages where they’re prevented from moving to keep their flesh tender for veal only to soon be slaughtered or male chicks being thrown straight into macerators as they’re considered worthless to the egg industry.
More people are going vegan than ever before as 88 million have went vegan. The chauvinists said the same thing towards those “crazy” feminists and abolitionists.
I will not be kind to those who are animal abusers. Stop it and be better. You did not address the examples of animal abuse I mentioned as that is permissible in your eyes.
So, like, a few years ago, I had this co-worker. She was vegan in the “annoying” way. Most vegans? You wouldn’t know it unless you knew them. In any case that wasn’t her.
She wasted no time telling everyone that they weren’t allowed to bring meat into the office- that the smell of it made her ill, and so, we had to be vegan to.
Well. Unfortunately for her that’s not a reasonable accommodation. Not that we didn’t try to make some effort (not microwaving food when she’s in the break room, etc,)(to be fair, our attempt to be reasonable ended after about the third sign declaring the office meat-free.)
In any case she waged a small war on it over the course of a few days- mostly hanging up passive aggressive signs and being snippy whenever some one walked by with anything even vaguely meat like, (including, in point of fact leftover mushroom stew that is, in fact, vegan. It’s why I think she was full of shit about the smell making her ill.)
Things came to a head when she decided it was a good idea to to go into the break room fridge and toss everything into the garbage. (Including another coworkers veg fried rice with crispy tofu,)
Now, do you think that anyone in that office was persuaded to go vegan?
Or do you imagine that HR fired her ass for being an overbearing, condescending removed- and a thief as well?
I’ll give you a hint: the steaks my boss got and I grilled for lunch were delicious.
The point being: food is integral to culture, and in many ways, part of how we socialize. It’s not something that you can just demand we change and not expect people to react well to.
Making arguments are all well and good, but they won’t really persuade anyone either. You’re literally talking about changing a few millennia of cultural norms.
Sure we can have that discussion, but really, if you have to get preachy, you have to get demanding or “dramatic” like my ex-coworker…. All it does is makes people remember that rather than the actual impactful points of the discussion.
Tradition is no excuse for exploiting and slaughtering the animals. Did you know slavery or stoning people to death were considered traditional practices.
Stop being a weak bystander and knock it off with defending the current day atrocities where pigs are being gassed, calves are separated from their mothers only to be placed in cages where they’re prevented from moving to keep their flesh tender for veal only to soon be slaughtered or male chicks being thrown straight into macerators as they’re considered worthless to the egg industry.
See how your food is made.
you should give a trigger warning when you link gore
You know. You’re missing the point?
Your methods do not work. You know that. You can see the results.
All people are going to remember from your interactions is that you were a preachy jerk.
And it’s yet another interaction that reinforces the image that all vegans are preachy jerks- even if it is far from the truth.
You are literally hurting your cause.
More people are going vegan than ever before as 88 million have went vegan. The chauvinists said the same thing towards those “crazy” feminists and abolitionists.
I will not be kind to those who are animal abusers. Stop it and be better. You did not address the examples of animal abuse I mentioned as that is permissible in your eyes.
it doesn’t seem to be effective at reducing or even stopping the growth of the meat industry
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL
most people feel the same way.
comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.